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Old 03-27-2017, 09:48 PM
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Yeah, that's what I meant by "I know it's possible"
I just needed to explain how it´s possible, but who cares?
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Old 03-28-2017, 10:33 AM
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I just needed to explain how it´s possible, but who cares?
No one. Everything's good
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My guesses.

With:
Someday Just Might Be Tonight
Garageland
Maybe Someday
the one that got away
You Can Sleep While I Dream
Ordinary People
Too much of a good thing
All I Wanna Do

Without:
"These Arms Are Open All Night"
I get a Rush
Last chance train
Rich Man Living in a Poor Man's House
Stay
Hush
I don't want to live forever
Gimme Some
Shut up and kiss me
Crazy Love
Kidnap an Angel

All based on song writing credits, if you can't hear his backing vocals or pick out his playing it's probably pre-band involvement.
I think I wouldn't include the 1996 songs into that category. According to the info I have, I Get A Rush, Someday Just Might be Tonight and River Runs Dry are from 1996. They were probably recorded with the band but I doubt thta it was done with a purpose of including them on the next album.
I read somewhere that River Runs Dry was the next Always Jon wrote but it was after the album (These Days) had been released and it didn't fit Destination Anywhere.
I have a list, where even Out Of Bounds was listed as from 1996 but I think it was from 1992
And quite speculative are the recordings from 1997 - Shut Up And Kiss Me and All I Wanna Do Is You, the first is confirmed to have been recorded with the Big Dogs but the latter is not however it's expected given the year.

I find it interesting that the songs which were used as b-sides weren't re-recorded by the band. Apart from Jon a Huey, those are totally different people playing. And Real Life was, with the intention to release it as a single. I'd love the band's take of Stay for example.

I love this era and I love Crush the way it is (well apart from She's A Mystery..). I'd love to have Jon's Sex Sells album and then the band's version, which would be the same to some extent with a few Richie's songs added.
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Old 04-05-2017, 06:36 PM
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I think I wouldn't include the 1996 songs into that category. According to the info I have, I Get A Rush, Someday Just Might be Tonight and River Runs Dry are from 1996. They were probably recorded with the band but I doubt thta it was done with a purpose of including them on the next album.
I read somewhere that River Runs Dry was the next Always Jon wrote but it was after the album (These Days) had been released and it didn't fit Destination Anywhere.
I have a list, where even Out Of Bounds was listed as from 1996 but I think it was from 1992
And quite speculative are the recordings from 1997 - Shut Up And Kiss Me and All I Wanna Do Is You, the first is confirmed to have been recorded with the Big Dogs but the latter is not however it's expected given the year.

I find it interesting that the songs which were used as b-sides weren't re-recorded by the band. Apart from Jon a Huey, those are totally different people playing. And Real Life was, with the intention to release it as a single. I'd love the band's take of Stay for example.

I love this era and I love Crush the way it is (well apart from She's A Mystery..). I'd love to have Jon's Sex Sells album and then the band's version, which would be the same to some extent with a few Richie's songs added.
I think the dates the official list had are wrong. Some sound dead on but Out of Bounds would have been recorded pre Slippery, for the movie Out of Bounds which came out in 86. They also listed Ordinary People as being for These Days even though it's a Crush Bside and relies very heavily on Shawn Mullin's Lullaby, which they even mentioned in the box set dvd. That song came out in the late 90's so again, that date can't be right.

It's all a guessing game I guess. I'd like to say the trend of blurring the line between band and solo came from the Crush B-sides but including Drive as a b-side for the Destination Anywhere singles started that I guess. Someday just might be....and I Get A Rush (to me) both fit the Crush vibe so well, the first one especially.
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I think the dates the official list had are wrong. Some sound dead on but Out of Bounds would have been recorded pre Slippery, for the movie Out of Bounds which came out in 86. They also listed Ordinary People as being for These Days even though it's a Crush Bside and relies very heavily on Shawn Mullin's Lullaby, which they even mentioned in the box set dvd. That song came out in the late 90's so again, that date can't be right.

It's all a guessing game I guess. I'd like to say the trend of blurring the line between band and solo came from the Crush B-sides but including Drive as a b-side for the Destination Anywhere singles started that I guess. Someday just might be....and I Get A Rush (to me) both fit the Crush vibe so well, the first one especially.
You're much more educated than I am it's always been a guessing game. So what's your guess about River Runs Dry?

We still have enough songs to fill three groups - Jon's Sex Sells, band's Sex Sells/new album and Crush. With obviously a few of them belonging to all three. However let's say the same amount of songs is there for Jon solo and then maybe a little less for the band album (co-written with Richie) that didn't make Crush.

I can't believe that Stay didn't make Crush what a song. They probably didn't want to have two big ballads about love and relationships on the album but still..
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You're much more educated than I am it's always been a guessing game. So what's your guess about River Runs Dry?

We still have enough songs to fill three groups - Jon's Sex Sells, band's Sex Sells/new album and Crush. With obviously a few of them belonging to all three. However let's say the same amount of songs is there for Jon solo and then maybe a little less for the band album (co-written with Richie) that didn't make Crush.

I can't believe that Stay didn't make Crush what a song. They probably didn't want to have two big ballads about love and relationships on the album but still..
I think Jon and Richie wrote so many new songs it didn't make sense to go back to the well of tracks Jon demoed before the reunion. My guess of River Runs Dry was AFTER D.A but before Crush/Sex Sells. I know the pedal steel was added in 2004. I often wonder what else was overdubbed other than what was shown in the making of videos.

EDIT: I just found the interview online. Really insightful about the box set.
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