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Old 04-07-2017, 12:31 AM
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I said I appreciate the effort. I didn't say I'd blow a gasket if they cancelled for a good reason (like Tico having surgery). Of course it's a risk you take any time you travel. However, knowing Jon's work ethic is one reason I do travel (and fly) to Bon Jovi shows. He's reliable. I used to fly to see Keith Urban too, but since he cancelled shows to go to rehab, I quit taking the risk of booking flights to see him. I only see him within driving distance.... and his rehab didn't affect any plans I had at all. It just showed that he was not reliable.

There are a lot of reasons people go see Bon Jovi over and over. One is that they show up when and where they are supposed to with VERY few exceptions.
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Old 04-07-2017, 12:44 AM
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This tour has mostly been a car crash with just a few good moments. Whatever this band continue to do is damaging the legacy IMO. It should have ended in 2011 but instead we get 2 more substandard albums and a patchy compilation. Bob Jovi were once an amazing live act but now are a mere shadow of that. Sad but true.

Time to pull the plug.
No, no, no. I agree that this tour is an accident, and I expected this since I saw the performances on the Asian tour of 2015. But Jon should continue making albums, even if they are trash and we criticize them harshly. I'm starting to appreciate his downfall, Do not pull the plug now. I think it's good that Jon faces failure from time to time, since in the future he can bring interesting things, with some changes.

I am prepared to accept his decadence. Assume it.
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Old 04-07-2017, 12:54 AM
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I said I appreciate the effort. I didn't say I'd blow a gasket if they cancelled for a good reason (like Tico having surgery). Of course it's a risk you take any time you travel. However, knowing Jon's work ethic is one reason I do travel (and fly) to Bon Jovi shows. He's reliable. I used to fly to see Keith Urban too, but since he cancelled shows to go to rehab, I quit taking the risk of booking flights to see him. I only see him within driving distance.... and his rehab didn't affect any plans I had at all. It just showed that he was not reliable.

There are a lot of reasons people go see Bon Jovi over and over. One is that they show up when and where they are supposed to with VERY few exceptions.
I don't know any artist more reliable than Jon in this aspect. In 2002, Bon Jovi would spent 4 days in Brazil to do a bunch of promo stuff for TV, people were crazy for the many opportunities they would have to see the band, but his mother in law died the day before they were supposed to flight to Rio so they had to postpone the trip for a couple of days. Even with the loss of a member of his family, the guy was in Rio early in the morning of the day of the pocket TV show, recorded it with a (fake, but I appreciate the effort) smile on his face and returned to the US right after it.

Everyone knows how much I criticize Jon, but in this regard, he has the right to get sick and cancel a show and people should really respect him for 30 years delivering.
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Old 04-07-2017, 01:01 AM
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Everyone knows how much I criticize Jon, but in this regard, he has the right to get sick and cancel a show and people should really respect him for 30 years delivering.
Then we agree. If Jon said he was too sick to perform, I would believe him and wish him well. But you have to know that if he cancelled people would also crucify him for that decision. It's like I've said all along. Damned if you do, damned if you don't. He did what he judged the best thing for the most people. I respect THAT.
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Then we agree. If Jon said he was too sick to perform, I would believe him and wish him well. But you have to know that if he cancelled people would also crucify him for that decision. It's like I've said all along. Damned if you do, damned if you don't. He did what he judged the best thing for the most people. I respect THAT.
People crucified him for cancelling Denver and rescheduling it so it would have been just another day at the office for Bon Jovi Inc.
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The problem of not canceling a show because it is sick, can bring worse results, such as a relapse or sequels for the following weeks, and jeopardize several shows.

Jon has to take care of himself and protect himself more. He is not 30 years old to do this thing anymore. Just carrying these things to the limit makes your voice soar over time and create incurable sequels, Because We Can Tour I think is an example of it.


James Hetfield, a few months ago something similar happened, he became ill, but came on stage and told what happened. He asked the fans if they wanted to continue in that state or cancel the show, return the money and come back sometime Of the tour to play again. But the audience wanted the show to continue. The result was not good, since they played very few songs and his voice worsened drastically. This made the following show canceled and when he got back on stage 4 days later still had trouble singing, which stretched for a couple of weeks.

Canceled or not will be crucified, at least choose to protect your health and not the profits of a night.
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Old 04-07-2017, 01:34 AM
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MSG is postponed due to bronchitis. See Billboard. So, everyone can be happy now, right? He's taking care of his health. Maybe there is enough time for people to get refunds on flights and hotels. One thing is certain-- if you do travel for shows, you should be wise enough to pay the flight and booking insurance to cancel if needed.

Damned if you do...damned if you don't.
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Everyone is blaming his voice but maybe the dude is legitimately sick which is effecting his voice and the rest of his body...
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MSG is postponed due to bronchitis. See Billboard. So, everyone can be happy now, right? He's taking care of his health. Maybe there is enough time for people to get refunds on flights and hotels. One thing is certain-- if you do travel for shows, you should be wise enough to pay the flight and booking insurance to cancel if needed.

Damned if you do...damned if you don't.
So if these MSG shows are April 13 and 15 where does denver go? Their website says he's playing all three nights? That's impossible logistically.
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Old 04-07-2017, 02:20 AM
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Travel to any show, pay for a hotel room, get 2 days off work to attend to any show - your risk. You, yourself and no one else.



That's a risk you are taking. Nobody forced you or gave to you any guarantees that the show will happen at any cost. He's not a machine, he's a human being like you, like me and he can get sick likewise you and me can.



Am I being too rational?


Not being too rational. Just common sense I also wanted to state.

Whenever I purchase tickets for any show I know it could be cancelled or not end up being the best because I am paying to see a human being!

Plus nobody "has" to buy tickets - it is a choice and risk. Nobody "has" to travel - it's a choice and risk if you happen to live in an area where concerts don't occur.

Attending a concert is a privilege, not a right.

Also being in the right place at the right time in an auditorium when JBJ comes into the audience is a privilege, not a right everyone will get to experience, although I sure wish I could some day...



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