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Old 01-22-2016, 03:55 PM
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More than Richie, I hope Matt comes back. The on-stage chemistry between Phil and him is awesome.
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Old 01-22-2016, 04:30 PM
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Unless Bobby has decided against big tours in the future I highly doubt Matt is coming back. Yeah he delivered some great energy in the shows and made a great pair with Phil during KTF but i missed Bobby covering for Jon. Phil is more than capable of handling all guitar parts, but Bobby's voice was missing for sure. It would be a dream for sure to see the Richie/Bobby lineup so they can bust out a set list like Lisbon 2011 but that probably won't happen until after this coming album/tour cycle....
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Unless Bobby has decided against big tours in the future I highly doubt Matt is coming back. Yeah he delivered some great energy in the shows and made a great pair with Phil during KTF but i missed Bobby covering for Jon. Phil is more than capable of handling all guitar parts, but Bobby's voice was missing for sure. It would be a dream for sure to see the Richie/Bobby lineup so they can bust out a set list like Lisbon 2011 but that probably won't happen until after this coming album/tour cycle....
Agree with you. Bobby's voice is much more needed these days than two guitar players who can deliver monster solos. Richie/Phil is the lead guitarist, Bobby/Phil are meant to be rhytm players and honestly Bobby does a great job with backing the band up with his vocals.

For the Richie rumor I'm always for a return no matter how strange the latest years have been. Richie is such a vital part of Bon Jovi and no matter how loyal Phil has been to Jon the latest years it can't make up for how much Richie is worth to the band.
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... As Nikos said Jon and Richie need to spend time together and there has been no indication they have been anywhere near one another.
If these guys want to, they can go anywhere in the world without anybody knowing about it. Just because we haven't seen any indication doesn't mean it hasn't happened. We have no idea if they've talked or not.

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...coming back for money may someday happen but feel so shallow... He said in the airport "an exorbitant amount of money" is what it would take. Can't imagine at this point Jon feeling the need for that...
You've quoted that airport comment several times, so it must really have hit a nerve! It was a soundbyte for the camera, for Pete's sake. It's pretty obvious in the video, just from the way he exaggerated "exORRRbitant", that it was purely for dramatic effect. Besides, if money was the only motive that would entice Richie to rejoin the band, it probably would have been sufficient to keep him touring in the first place.

But if money is Richie's only interest, I agree that it's probably safe to say Jon wouldn't kowtow to that. (On the bright side, if it does happen, I guess that means we can eliminate $$$ as the catalyst, doesn't it?)

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... I'd like to think it's for the fans and the music ...
If it happens, I'd prefer they do it for themselves and their music. The fans would benefit far more, IMO.

Doing it "for the fans" sounds good but still translates to doing it for something or someone else. It doesn't matter what the external motivator is - label, fans, contractual obligations, money, excuse to tour, whatever - it's still external motivation. The only way we're going to get anything authentic, that they can deliver with passion, is if the motivation starts with them. First, they gotta have something to say; and, second, they have to recognize that they can say it better together than either of them can on his own.

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Old 01-22-2016, 06:44 PM
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...For the Richie rumor I'm always for a return no matter how strange the latest years have been. Richie is such a vital part of Bon Jovi and no matter how loyal Phil has been to Jon the latest years it can't make up for how much Richie is worth to the band.
Ditto.


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Old 01-22-2016, 10:18 PM
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Considering Richie and his teenage girlfriend are completely demandless and can't even sell out a local theater, it would be cool if they did something completely outside the box...

This is obviously just a hypothetical but it would still be cool if Richie & Orianthi opened for Bon Jovi to promote their new album and then Richie joins Bon Jovi after (with or without Phil)...

Richie could do a 45 minute set of solo material and then have a complete jam session with both him an Phil after with Bon Jovi. Talk about the ultimate Bon Jovi concert. Jon as an aged front man with butchered vocals could use all the help he could get.

It might seem far fetched but it will definitely raise a lot of attention and I'd be the first one in line for that show...

Throw Alec in and you have the ultimate farewell tour.
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It's good to see the portal alive and so many replies and discussions in the various threads.

But, guys, all this discussion is based on a rumor... It's just a fancy title for an article, nothing official or legible unofficial... I think we make too much noise for it.
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Old 01-23-2016, 12:10 AM
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No way in hell. Not happening for the obvious reasons and also because Richie has to learn a lesson, don’t treat your fans like shit or it’d be hell to win them back. I don’t even want the band to whip him in place (I vote Tico for that), it’s the fans the ones he has let down mainly.

After a while, I understood his reasoning as it was very similar to mine for some years. I even kinda accepted his half assed too-little-too-late apologies since I guess we’ll never know if he wasn’t allowed to talk during the tour or didn’t want to make things even worse. I moved on and wished him best until he opened his big mouth and spewed stupid shit after stupid shit DISRESPECTING THE FANS. The band and I also fell apart a few years ago, I didn’t feel the *magic* anymore and I stopped caring. The BIG difference is that I never badmouthed them, never felt the need to ridiculize either the band, the music, or the fans. It wasn’t right for me anymore for a myriad of reasons, mainly because the quality of the output declined over the years and nobody made an effort anymore (just like Richie felt basically, only he was also part of the problem), but that didn’t negate the rest of their work. And I’m a *band* fan. I might like Jon as an artist more than the others, but it’s the 5 of them who make it work and I never thought I should take sides. I imagine if a neutral fan like me is mighty pissed after almost 3 years, the ones that really took sides won’t be happy if they just sweep this shit under the rug and pretend that all the bitterness and shitting over the legacy that Richie did never happened and it was just a case of lost in translation and the heat of the moment. He ultimately told the fans that they were selling them crap albums, crap albums he didn’t have a problem in making and promoting, and never stood for his principles, only looked for his own interest. What a twat, sorry, I still feel he has no place in the band and IF he comes back, he has a lot of apologizing to do.

And besides I’ve read that Richie is working or wanting to work with the ghosts of the past, Rob Rock and Doc McGhee which to me sends the message (intentionally or not) that he’s the not one that broke with THE group of people that made it possible to reach the top with the best of their guns only to turn the once hugely commercial but with a hunger and a passion for reaching new artistic heights into the mediocre but profitable corporation they now are. Seems to say that he never wanted that change (If I recall he said something like not wanting to fire Doc, not sure about Bob Rock). I DO think they should work with different producers/managers, but the band as a whole, and it didn’t happen for whatever reason. Now Richie doing it seems retaliation. It’s probably just bad timing and I hope they help him, I absolutely wish nothing bad to Richie. I only think it’s too soon for anything with the band right now

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This is obviously just a hypothetical but it would still be cool if Richie & Orianthi opened for Bon Jovi to promote their new album and then Richie joins Bon Jovi after (with or without Phil)...

Richie could do a 45 minute set of solo material and then have a complete jam session with both him an Phil after with Bon Jovi. Talk about the ultimate Bon Jovi concert. Jon as an aged front man with butchered vocals could use all the help he could get.
Crazy, I had the exact same thought when I read the thread. This warrants a "Sure Jan" gif for both of us, only I'm too lazy to get one


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Old 01-23-2016, 12:59 AM
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Utter nonsense in my opinion!.. What sense would there be touring an album you've had no part in!... If Richie's back in the band ill eat a cowboy hat!
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Old 01-23-2016, 02:39 AM
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I can't imagine that they would trust him to go on tour with them again after he has flaked out on two tours in a row. IF he's ever on tour with them again, I imagine Phil and/or Matt will also be on tour because there's no way they'll trust Richie to show up every night and they'll have back up already in place.
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