[Iceman]

Originally Posted by rane

No, dont put words in my mouth. Ive only ever agreed to the tendency of bad slang writing and speaking (notice: no grammar mentioned here). I even mentioned examples (the z vs s, the wOOt word etc.) but still YOU twist it to force an opinion on me. Actually I've several times pointed out that I didnt think the original post was that badly written, but I guess you pull out the "it was edited" argument again then.

So you only dislike "tendencies". Blah. Tendencies don't write anything, people do. And you only dislike Z's and wOOt's? That's bullshit. You hate bad spelling as much as I do, but you just can't stand the fact that I've said it first.

Oh it did. And Im sure now that you and the word friendly certainly isnt a great match on these boards. Btw allow me to quote you from the original thread. You said somewhere: "And if you have to resort to insults, I suggest you don't post at all." - by your own logic you should rethink your posts before writing them, especially if they contain direct or indirect insults.

Yes, and I stand by that. I haven't posted one insult, you have posted several. And I challenge you to show any posts where I have insulted anyone. If you can, I'll show you several where you've used insults because you ran out of credible arguments. Which, BTW, is a good example of a bad argument technique. But then again, I'm sure you already know that.

Oh that isnt real arguments?

That isn't? Try "those aren't". And no, they are not. They're your opinions, not arguments.

I think majority would agree that they was.

Don't use the word "majority" when clearly that's not the case. You just think so, because it's your opinion. Show me the majority or don't speak about it.

I argue that people like polite people, not impolite.

No, what you actually argued was that the way I said is was impolite. Which, again is your opinion. Not an argument.

And that laziness doesnt equal rude.

That again, is your opinion. I, and many others, believe that on a message board writing bad posts because you're lazy, is rude. But again, that's no argument, that's your opinion.

And the discussion quickly converted into your sentences because of your stubborn not-logical claims and actions.

"Quickly converted"? Only because you started picking on them. Blame yourself. Show me one illogical claim I've made, or better yet "action".

"Your posts are getting ridiculous" - I take that as a compliment. It indicates to me that my points has some serious impact on you.

Oh please, don't give yourself too much credit. You have had no impact on anything here. Like I said, the likes of you come here every few months, try to act like sheriffs and then disappear. You say I'm the "forum cop"? Think about for a second what you're trying to do. Does the word "hypocrite" mean anything to you?

If you havent noticed, this is a completely normal and well-written debate about ethical issues where people are of different opinions. Going as low as saying the opponents posts are getting ridiculous, says more about the one saying it than the one it was meant for.

Your posts are ridiculous. You're trying to come up with "facts" and "arguments" where there are none. And I'm not the one insulting you, you're the one insulting me.

That's debatable. Edited or not, I think the original post looks fine and is quite legible.

Who cares what it looks to you? I don't. I care about the fact that the post is/was hard to read because of bad language, no punctuation and no paragaph changes. What's your argument that it was "fine"?

Its totally different when one sticks up for a person who was put through the forumcop teaching machine. Forum cops arent by definition against a whole post, but they're against spelling/grammar flaws. Unless of course you try to twist the definition to suit your own arguments.

Bullshit. You're just trying to justify breaking your own "rules". You used the term" forum cop", you've stated all these rules about what's allowed and what's not. I haven't. Twist it all you want, but you can't change that fact.

Face it already, you're in too deep. You've used up any arguments you had, lost, and now try desperately to gasp for air.

No, that only happened in your own head. I suspect you of writing stuff like this to confuse your "opponent", hoping he/she will think your right and back down. My arguments are just as good and valid as your own. They just dont fit into your thoughts, so you automatically put them down.

What arguments? You have none. You've already stated that you don't like bad posts any more than others here. The only argument you have left is the opinion on how rude you think post was. And that's not an argument, it's an opinion.

Maybe. Maybe not. I also want everyone in the world to stop doing crime, but Im pretty sure that wont happen.

Does that mean we should stop with police forces, forget all the laws and rules? Just because it will never happen? No.

Just the same, we shouldn't let people post badly written posts, rape the languge and teach kids to use illegible language.

I have to be careful about my next comment now, because you'll probably try to twist it and force an opinion on me yet again.

You hve to be careful, because you have no case. I've never forced an opinion on you, you did it all by yourself. If you're going to argue with me weather people like badly written or well written posts more, you should've picekd other opinion than me. If you think the same, it's kinda hard for you to argue.

But...I think that the language is being "raped" more often these days and I fear it will continue in the future. I dont blame lazy writers tho, but rather the media, the movies, the rap/hiphop and other spoiled music artists etc.etc.

If you fear that, why don't you do something about it. I do. You can't change the world at once, you do it little by little. Each person writing better English or any language is a change for the better.

Ice