freedom of speech......

Funny. When you find "a few" links saying something, then its fact immediately. But when I find a few threads where fans bash other people for nothing...then its different. And yeah yeah..your links are "more official" than mine. However my point remains.

It definately is. You think of others while doing something, or you don't.

If she's a native English speaker and a writer, then she has no excuses for writing the way she does.

Why should you care? I call them out if I feel like it. You don't like it, fine. Flame me all you want. But I will still point out anyone lazy enough not to even try and spell or post legible posts.

If they're dumb enough to write in such a way on public forum, they deserve to be called upon it publicly as well. It's not like they don't know it as they post. And as for ruining the thread, well, if the starter would've spelled the post properly to begin with, there would be no problem. And if others who spell as bad, wouldn't have started to "defend" her, no thread would be ruined.

Ice

No, it's a fact because it's a study saying so. It has nothing to do with the amount of links or "more official" sources. You conduct an official study on your claims and then you can talk. Your point is non-existent.

Ice

I would hope so, you wrote in capitals with no commas and your spelling was bad. Next time try typing in text to cause true offense !

Dawn

I get the rest but LOTTLE ASSHOLES??? That's a new one on me. I think you should be able to spell better than that - or at least explain what the **** you are talking about

Kathleen

I am not exactly following your logic, Dawn. Just because someone might argue there aren't bad words, only bad intentions, doesn't automatically conclude that that person would teach a 4 year old to swear at their teacher. Or swear in general.

My son knows pretty much all swearwords. He doesn't use any. He was taught that there are many different ways to use swearwords and not all are bad. Not necessarily a desirable method to express emotions or feelings, but certainly not offensive either. Different strokes for different folks.

When my son was 6 or 7 I took him to a Pearl Jam concert. His Dad was outraged because of the language exposure. We were in row 10 or so and Eddie Vedder takes the stage and yells: "Are you ready for a ****ing good time?" My son turns to me in utter disbelief and shouts: "he used a bad word". The people around us burst into laughs. See my son probably has never heard anybody actually use the f-word but he did know it was a 'bad' word. Why would someone so cool as Eddie Vedder use the forbidden word and does that mean EV is bad? Should we not see any other concerts for fear of exposure to 'bad' words? Should we stop listening to music altogether cause only bad people use bad words?

Bullshit.

This was an excellent opportunity to explain that bad words are not offensive but bad intentions are. People can be mean without using certain words and people can use certain words without meaning any harm or disrespect. Some people use certain words in certain circumstances to color/emphasise/express/lend a certain thrust to the context. Highly valid, I might add. Colorful language can indeed add and enhance and express and explain and emphasise in ways bland or edited language cannot even come close.

I have seen people swear up a storm while expressing some very passionate views. I ended up having more respect and trust for that person than ever before and I could have ever had without certain words. Why? Because I've never realized how committed and strong that person felt about certain aspects. He could have never more clearly and more decisively and more firmly articulated his appreciation/view/committment by using nice language than by saying: "that is ****ing bullshit. Bullshit. Bullshit. ****ing bullshit and you do not disrespect my people ... bla bla" than by saying: "that is just not right and I don't appreciated your deragatory way of talking to xyz, nor do I feel that you have the right to judge over yzx"....

To be offended by mere words is quite shallow and narrowminded. IMO. Just like nice words and flatter isn't always truly nice and flattering.

Thats your opinion. Luckily its not fact or a rule.

So you ARE kinda proud. This above statement matches exactly that of a forumcop.

Your logic: If someone does something you dont like, they DESERVE to be treated bad..and not only deserve, your GONNA treat them bad. Imagine what would happen if everyone thought and acted like this to all kinds of issues...

The thread was never ruined before your first post in it. The post was legible enough to majority. Your post alone started the fuzz and woke up other people with the same opinion as me, thus going off-topic. But here your egotrip starts again, claiming that those of us you DEFENDED her, were the ones ruining the thread.

We will never agree to anything, because of this proud attitude of yours.

Lets see. The first link of yours shows that the study is limited to Irish 15 year-olds and was conducted 4 years ago. The second link describes "children in disadvantaged schools" which would make sense if you compare them to children in middle-class or high-class schools. Actually that would make the tolerance towards not-well-written posts higher, than if one from the high-class school wrote a bad post.

Personally I'd take any official "loose" studies like these, with a grain of salt. I remember an official study a few years ago, saying that bananas cause cancer. That must mean its fact, right? Shit I better stop eating those long yellow things..oh wait..I have for almost 30 years and I havent got cancer.

Pride has nothing to do with it. And we've already agreed on something, read your posts.

As to me doing it, you don't like it, fine. But you complaining about it ruins the thread just as bad as you claim I do. And I'm not going to stop. It has nothing to do with pride and everything to do with the fact that most of us here want to read posts that are written so that you can read them.

You're one of those peope that come here every few months, start a tirade against me and then leave when you see that you've got it wrong. And I stay. Funny, innit? The people who've known me since the start, know that I don't bitch unless there's a reason for it. Some like it, some don't, I don't care.

I'm not playing the "forum cop" here, you are.

Ice

The thread was already ruined. That I (and others) defend the poster and stands up to you, is primarily to let readers know of the existance of forumcop teachers and let them know that it IS ok not to write 100% correct english posts (altho they still shouldnt write a bad post *on purpose*)

You never wondered why so many people keep starting a tirade against you then? And that they perhaps leave because you might be too proud/stubborn/childish to realize that you might not be right all the time? This sure sounds like an arrogant comment to me a la "I am alright right..I have to be...I cant be wrong, no way".

Actually I dont care about the people who've known you since the start. Should that be like some kinda quality diploma, documenting that your credibility and opinions are better than ours? It's easy to stay put here on the board, if you scare ppl away. My guess tho is...that most just shake their heads, realizing its no use to debate with you cause you will never change your stand or admit to anything at all. You're always right.

A forumcop is one who keeps pointing out little unimportant things in peoples posts, typical spelling errors and if the post is 100% on-topic or not. And the forumcop is irritating to other users because they act like this. I think you fit the description better than I do.