Religion and Swearing on JT

And I did not cut your right. I don't see bad language as bad as you do but I even agreed with you several times now that using foul language is not going by etiquette.

That's still opinion. "****" is maybe a bad word, but it has a meaning.

Because, generally, I do not use foul language (remember, I "quoted") and I was surprised that you pointed at me when there are quite a few members who do it regularly. I found it odd, just like you might find it odd that I mentioned your signature. <<< And that is why I compared the two things, not because they are equally offensive, they are not!

Erm, what country are you talking about?

PS: Maybe a mod could split this thread?

DONE

Thankyou Kev for splitting the thread. your the mover

Hi CC,

I live in England and swearing in not permitted in the newspapers or on tv until very late at night and even then certain words are omitted.

The f word does have a meaning, however it is hardly ever used in its actual context, there it is used to offend not to explain a sentence.

I understand that you dont swear normally , no reason to start now You will find that I have asked most people on this board to not swear at some time or the other. Some now asterisk their swear words out, therefore I dont have to read them and know to ignore it, however your type of swearing even in the message here is blatant and it obvious to the word you are using which is why I asked you not to swear.

Dawn

Ever thought about the fact that people find various things offensive. OR meaningful/-less.

From my point of view....I find any kind of religious "pushing" to be higly offensive & rude. The ones doing it see it only as "spreading the word". Geez I think I am smart enough to look for it when/if I feel being in need of it without the true believers trying shove it down my throat.

oh, and I do think there's more meaning in "fu*k" than in "jesus". I ain't a believer but I do take part in the other thing mentioned every now and then, I guess that says it all

9pm is only late if you have church the next morning. Swearing has also appeared on Eastenders, and The Bill - both before 9pm. And just because newspapers choose not to swear doesn't mean they are not allowed to swear.

But what has your country to do with this forum, except for the language?

Even in its actual context it is not a decent word. That does not mean that it is only there to offend. BJ have on their site "What a great f***ing day for R'N'R". I don't think that this is to offend people.

Bad language is usually censored automatically on this board. Now, if I make one asterisk or two... you still know what is behind them.
Blatant? I thought there would be no more proper moment to type out the word than the one when we are actually discussing it. It is a word, it has a meaning, it's listed in every decent dictionary. And there it is referred to as "coarse", not offensive.

As Captain Crash pointed out, this board has very little to do with England. It is an international board, that abides by the rules of internet. I don't know exactly where the server is, but I say it is in Slovakia. English laws do not apply in Slovakia. So the illegal or 'lawfully offensive' does not abide. By internet rules, spreading animal or child pornography is illegal, not swearing. In some countries, such as Saudi-Arabia, sites showing bare skin are banned. Those are the laws in that country, and they cannot access sites that show material that are illegal in that country.

Also, Dawn, swearing at a policeman is not an offence as such. Sure, if you say to a police officer 'f*ck off' you will get arrested. But also, if you say to a police officer 'get lost' or 'take a hike' you will be just as likely to get arrested, even if the words themselves are considered 'appropriate'. However, if you say to a policeman 'I saw a red van that came speeding f*cking fast round the corner' you will probably not be arrested. Swearing is different from name-calling or directly offending someone.

There are countries where saying 'Jesus rocks' would get you arrested, or at least in trouble. And not only muslim or communist countries. In France, if you wear a top saying 'Jesus rocks' to school will get you suspended, where as probably something you consider 'offensive' would not get the students suspended.

Religious views are much more likely to cause trouble than swearing. I am not saying swearing should be accepted, this is why on Jovitalk swear words are censored. Yes, there is a way to get around it, but in general it is censored. Swearing does not equal offending someone. If you call someone a 'f*cker' on this board does not evoke much stronger reaction than if you called them a 'dimwit', even though both dim and wit are generally accepted. Name-calling is never appropriate, and using swear words or generally accepted words do not change that.

Hi Laura,

I wasnt pointing out the rules of the internet regarding swearing I was pointing out the rules in England. When swearing at a police officer in anyway is not allowed and you will be caustioned not to.

Its obvious at this time there are no real rules on the internet regarding swearing, sites use profanity filters, just as this one does . Presumably Peter put the profanity filter on this board for a reason, a sense of decency , a lot of people seem to ignore this and disrespect this boards basic rules that have been put in place and by pass the filter in order to swear.

I dont see a religious opinion filter anywhere on this board do u ?

Dawn

No, we can't see it either. But there should be one. If you ask others to respect your opinions why won't you respect the opinions of others?

Ice

So you think that religion is an opinion but finding certain words to be "offensive" is a fact?

You were brought up to believe that certain words are bad or foul. Maybe some did have meaning pertaining to foul acts or such years ago, but why is it that the word pooh or exrement is ok but not shit? Same goes with most "swear" words.

No words "offend" me and I think that if you take "offense" to something then you aren't very open minded.

I personally hate all religion, not specific points but just religion in general, but I don't force that opinion on others or ridicule their religions, I understand that everyone should be free to do and say what they want.

I know you could look at that like you don't want to see certain words, but they're words, what harm can they do to you?