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Old 01-19-2023, 08:30 PM
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OOOH explain this thought please so I can see if I agree haha. All About Loving You felt like a carbon copy, I feel like there's been some songs in a very similar style and structure. It for sure kicked off the trend of their power ballads really lighter on guitars.
There was a period when they were trying to replicate the success of Always and failed miserably.
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Bounce (the finished product) was overall just a miserable attempt at copying own or someone else's success. From the nu metal-like guitars to the Creed-influence to basically trying to copy the success of IML and TYFLM with their two ugly little brothers, it just went off the rails.
There's a reason why it was left out of the GH compilation and Richie being quoted saying: "Bounce wasn't much fun, but we shoved it down everyone's throats anyway..."
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Bounce (the finished product) was overall just a miserable attempt at copying own or someone else's success. From the nu metal-like guitars to the Creed-influence to basically trying to copy the success of IML and TYFLM with their two ugly little brothers, it just went off the rails.
There's a reason why it was left out of the GH compilation and Richie being quoted saying: "Bounce wasn't much fun, but we shoved it down everyone's throats anyway..."
You are entirely right, and I do believe Bounce is the least artistically interesting and unique records they made in their pomp, BUT there are some fantastic songs on that album (and even better songs that were left off the album).
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I think it's a valid point to make. But a part of me thinks it's funny we can't accept All About Loving You for being a true power ballad of theres because it was made to sound like the past when Thank You For Loving Me is just as guilty, even down to rehashing "These five words". Both, to me, felt very forced and calculated but I guess the band post 1992 can be guilty of that.
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I think it's a valid point to make. But a part of me thinks it's funny we can't accept All About Loving You for being a true power ballad of theres because it was made to sound like the past when Thank You For Loving Me is just as guilty, even down to rehashing "These five words". Both, to me, felt very forced and calculated but I guess the band post 1992 can be guilty of that.
The amount of people that lists Thank you for loving me as one of their favorite Bon Jovi songs would surprise you. It's aged extremely well and is still being played at weddings, and graduations (as a dedication to the parents). Music really hasn't evolved that much since then so stuff released in 2000 (which is already 22 years old) is still pretty relevant within the landscape of music as a whole. Which is really weird when you think about it....
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While you are not wrong at all I don't think this relates too good to spotify since Crush was already 8 years old when Spotify started and it took another couple of years until the user figures really went through the roof. So at that point of time there was no attention for Crush or It's My Life anymore from which any song could have gathered.
Yes, Spotify would not reflect the song's popularity at the time (because of timing as you said), but it still reflects the songs' overall longstanding popularity, especially in the context of Bon Jovi top 10 songs, because other songs it "competes" against were also released way before Spotify. So my point was more about why Thank You was more popular in general than some people realize, and Spotify is simply one metric to track / prove that.

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Bounce (the finished product) was overall just a miserable attempt at copying own or someone else's success. From the nu metal-like guitars to the Creed-influence to basically trying to copy the success of IML and TYFLM with their two ugly little brothers, it just went off the rails.
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You are entirely right, and I do believe Bounce is the least artistically interesting and unique records they made in their pomp, BUT there are some fantastic songs on that album (and even better songs that were left off the album).
I still don't get the hate for that album. Maybe it's because, while knowing the band and their music long before, that album finally turned me into a fan.
To me it is one of their most consistent albums. It is one of only a few Bon Jovi albums in which you can clearly hear the musical leitmotif. While there are (as usual) quite some outtakes that are better songs, the song selection as a whole fits much better together than the songs on Crush or even on Keep The Faith. Bounce has a flow that Crush and Keep The Faith are missing (both great albums in their own right, but as mentioned by many of you in a lot of threads before, Keep The Faith has very strong and perfectly fitting first 6 songs while afterwards the flow drops).

At the end of the day it's probably just a matter of taste.
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I still don't get the hate for that album. Maybe it's because, while knowing the band and their music long before, that album finally turned me into a fan.

To me it is one of their most consistent albums. It is one of only a few Bon Jovi albums in which you can clearly hear the musical leitmotif. While there are (as usual) quite some outtakes that are better songs, the song selection as a whole fits much better together than the songs on Crush or even on Keep The Faith. Bounce has a flow that Crush and Keep The Faith are missing (both great albums in their own right, but as mentioned by many of you in a lot of threads before, Keep The Faith has very strong and perfectly fitting first 6 songs while afterwards the flow drops).



At the end of the day it's probably just a matter of taste.
It's mad because the flow of Bounce is something I'm not particularly a fan of.

I really like Everyday but I feel most of the 'even songs' (tracks 4,,6,8...) Are boring or poor whereas the odd number title tracks are heavy or some of my favourite by the band.
Undivided
The Distance
Not so much Misunderstood for me but it's ok
Hook Me Up
Love Me Back To Life
Bounce

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Undivided, Misunderstood and the title track are great. Crush has about as many genuinely good tracks as well (IML, Thank You, One Wild Night) - interestingly enough, they were all released as singles, too. Two Story Town is cool, same for Just Older - I guess the b-tier stuff is better on Crush?
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