Originally Posted by Suojelusperkele

1. It has always bothered me that I have never been sure what's the date for the Johannesburg '95 show that's widely available as video and audio, as it was a TV broadcast. I have never been even sure what were the dates of Bon Jovi's concerts in South Africa in 1995 - it seems that no one knows these dates for sure. Everybody says the televised show was 1st of December, but what's the basis for that? You can't tell the date from the recording, and I'm not aware that any South African who was present at the concerts has ever said (and proved) which show was filmed. We don't even know what were the dates for the South African concerts because there's no (that I'm aware of) official concertography, tour posters or ticket stubs that would prove the dates of the concerts. I just spent several hours browsing through the Internet looking at Bon Jovi tour dates written on fan sites, and there is NO fan site that has all four dates written down (let alone proved the dates to be correct). Most fan sites list only two, at best three shows.

What we know is that Bon Jovi played 4 concerts in South Africa in 1995. I have always thought (because I read this from some website a thousand years ago) that the dates were:

November 28 - Cape Town
December 1 - Johannesburg
December 2 - Johannesburg
December 3 - Durban

But some people think that the first Johannesburg show was on 30th of November and the second on 1st of December; and no-one has proof of anything. The televised concert was the second show (as Jon says "Good evening Johannesburg welcome to round number two"), we should just know when these concerts took place.

In addition, I can't understand how have people got the idea that the live B-sides from Johannesburg on the These Days singles are from 1st of December when THERE IS NO DATE WRITTEN ON THE CDS. We can't know whether the live tracks are from the televised show or from the other show, or whether some of the tracks are from the first night and some from the second. Is there anyone who is able to shed some light on this issue?

2. The tour itinerary on the Something For The Pain single lists Rock im Park, Munich as 4th of June 1995 and Rock am Ring, Nurnburg as 3rd of June, but on the One Wild Night single it says that I Believe is from Nuremberg 4th of June. Which is correct? The single even lists a different city as Nürburg and Nürnberg are obviously in different parts of Germany. I think most trade sites list the MUNICH show as 3rd of June and NÜRBURGRING (which is in Nürburg far from Nürnberg/Nuremberg), as 4th of June, making the OWN single info wrong about the city but correct about date. Is there some German who can confirm the dates and locations of Rock im Park and Rock am Ring in 1995?

3. I'm just wondering is there any collector on this site who has a recording of the show in Nashville on September 20, 1995? This must be one of the rarest Bon Jovi ROIOs ever. And does anyone have Virgin radio interview & acoustic gig from 13th August 1995? And Brisbane '95? These latter two are also pretty damn rare, if they even exist (anymore).