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Old 06-05-2006, 10:46 PM
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True. Some people are simply too pre-occupied to take some silly stabs at him to actually read and comprehend what he's got to say
Might be. Yet, I find it highly pathetic to create a site to put down people. Most of the comments are downright insulting and nothing else. He's found a way to offend and no one can defend oneself. How cool is that? There is a very low percentage of *just* funny comments. The rest is just rude, not funny. He accuses me to wait for his postings, while he seems to wait for any emissions of a member of the Meyer family so he can jump on them. Of how much substance is that?
I just don't believe that anyone, the band or whoever, is willing to listen to his (often valid) arguments when he's got to speak down to them and call them names in the same sentence.
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Old 06-05-2006, 10:53 PM
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Might be. Yet, I find it highly pathetic to create a site to put down people.
I was wondering about the purpose/reason/value myself...
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Old 06-05-2006, 11:10 PM
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True. Some people are simply too pre-occupied to take some silly stabs at him to actually read and comprehend what he's got to say


I just LOVE that last review .... it's sooo precious (even though I couldn't get myself to read the entire thing - just pick a couple of sentences and that's enough).
There's only so many ways you can take "Look at those silly cows". I've said it before, the day Seb starts showing other people respect and not degrading himself to insults is the day I take him seriously. He seems like an alright guy with a ton of knowldge on the band, I've just yet to see a mature side of him.
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Old 06-06-2006, 12:32 AM
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I have always thought that Seb has some very valid points when it comes to the bands music, the problem is that he seems to be incapable of stating those thoughts without being condescending and degrading to others and ultimitely to himself, at the end of the day it shows no real intelligence to call people names and put the word **** in nearly every line of a post.
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Old 06-06-2006, 12:36 AM
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I have always thought that Seb has some very valid points when it comes to the bands music, the problem is that he seems to be incapable of stating those thoughts without being condescending and degrading to others and ultimitely to himself, at the end of the day it shows no real intelligence to call people names and put the word **** in nearly every line of a post.
Yes. Exactly. and when someone questions the almighty seb, we get "oooh you just don't have a sense of humour". The hell I don't, I just like my thoughts in clear sentences without insults. But that's just me, heh.
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Old 06-06-2006, 12:54 AM
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Nowhere. I did.
Good. Wrong conclusion then.

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You said getting serious means saying negative things about Bon Jovi. Not true.
I thought it'd be perfectly clear that in the way I meant it getting serious would mean saying negative things about Bon Jovi. Ofcourse I know that generally it isn't true, otherwise my postive reviews would be one big joke, which they obviously aren't.

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Was just trying to help. Also, it looks stupid when you correct other people's typos to make them look like idiots, and then forget the whole predicate in a sentence yourself.
I know. I should've read it again, but just couldn't be bothered about it.

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I am sorry, I can't hold myself if someone gets his highs out of consequently putting others down even for the most harmless comments. Probably, that is my fault. I have a few.
But btw, why do you?
You're the one who just keeps trying to put me down in any way by saying I am wrong and whatever and putting things out of the context just to get your right. Sometimes you're lucky and I simply give up due to you not being worth my time, sometimes I'm bored and I keep going against you, which only makes you more look like the obsessed Supersonic stalker.

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Well, to answer that, see above. If I feel what one says is downright offensive and unfair, and sorry, but that is the case most of the time with you, I will reply. Sure, it often has not much to do with the subject, but your laughing at people hasn't either.
Your past er, 100 replies aimed at me often have nothing to do with being harmless or anything. They're just attempts to put me down. It sometimes looks like you want to be the one who is able to make Supersonic hush. If it'd be because of the discussions I'd create and because of the things I say, I don't have a problem with it. Yet, you try to discuss the way I talk instead of the things I talk about. My laughing at other people most of time is about the things I say. Not about the way people say things.

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Just because many people don't care anymore and try to get along with you, doesn't mean you are any more a voice for what Bon Jovi fans really want. Just because you are intelligent enough to stir things up and put people down, doesn't mean what you tell is the sole truth.
And you know just as well that I am able to agree with you when your facts come across seriously.
Yet you never actually get into the discussion to prove me that my sole truth is wrong. If you'd do that, all your posts aimed at me would actually make sense. Now you only sort of complain about me being wrong, but can't tell me what I'm wrong about. No examples, only complaints.

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I might be not as "famous" or "liked" as you are, Basti, but I didn't need to bitch around to get me where I am.

I like the imagination that Holland got a crappy show this time because of your whining.
Er, yeah. Whatever.

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Old 06-06-2006, 01:01 AM
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I have always thought that Seb has some very valid points when it comes to the bands music, the problem is that he seems to be incapable of stating those thoughts without being condescending and degrading to others and ultimitely to himself, at the end of the day it shows no real intelligence to call people names and put the word **** in nearly every line of a post.
Exactly my thoughts.
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Old 06-06-2006, 02:12 AM
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I thought it'd be perfectly clear that in the way I meant it getting serious would mean saying negative things about Bon Jovi. Ofcourse I know that generally it isn't true, otherwise my postive reviews would be one big joke, which they obviously aren't.
Exactly, I was just doing what you do. Taking something someone said and "analyze" it only to call him/her the biggest asshole on the planet or something to that extent.

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You're the one who just keeps trying to put me down in any way by saying I am wrong and whatever and putting things out of the context just to get your right.
Because that is what YOU do most of your time on here, or with your "projects". I am no representative of a higher law, nor have I been appointed by anyone to hunt you down. I just believe that your behaviour is downright unfair most of the time and I will continue to say so when I see the need. And I will continue to do it without calling you names.

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Sometimes you're lucky and I simply give up due to you not being worth my time, sometimes I'm bored and I keep going against you, which only makes you more look like the obsessed Supersonic stalker.
Neither does the time I waste with you pay me any bills, but I find it simply unbelievable that your rudeness made most of the people you insulted shut up. You should be told back what you tell others.

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Your past er, 100 replies aimed at me often have nothing to do with being harmless or anything. They're just attempts to put me down. It sometimes looks like you want to be the one who is able to make Supersonic hush. If it'd be because of the discussions I'd create and because of the things I say, I don't have a problem with it. Yet, you try to discuss the way I talk instead of the things I talk about.
But that's the point. The way you talk about others is condescending and offending and makes most people shut themselves off to what you are actually talking about. I am often speechless what obviously sane people on here over-look of your comments because of your questionable reputation. Therefore I go against.

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My laughing at other people most of time is about the things I say. Not about the way people say things.
I suppose that reads "...about the things they say." Fine. And my replies to you are about the way you say things. Period. And it is not because I have fun putting you down or nothing better to do. It is because it is plain simply impertinent how you treat others for not sharing your opinion.
It is NOT a serious discussion when you call others dick, moron, sucker or mother****er or just tell them that they make no sense - at all - with such a slam that it equally refers to their existence on this planet. And all that because they don't share your view on things or don't take your arguments for the truth or are not as smart as, let's say, Iceman. If anything it makes them not see your often valid arguments.

I don't know if you need to do that for your self-esteem or if you just have fun putting others down. Either way, I find it sad and worth to say something against.

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Yet you never actually get into the discussion to prove me that my sole truth is wrong. If you'd do that, all your posts aimed at me would actually make sense. Now you only sort of complain about me being wrong, but can't tell me what I'm wrong about. No examples, only complaints.
I tell you all the time what it is I am talking about. You refuse to get it or you are incapable of dealing with what you do to others. I am happy to repeat it again: It IS about how you say things, NOT what things you say. I don't need to prove your truths anything - because often I agree with them. I think it is pathetic that you need to put your thoughts across as if they were engraved in stone, dismissing everyone who does not acknowledge, or better praise, your points as if only you are supposed to understand the world.

It is so laughable when you try to include all eventualities for disagreeing replies into your initial posts or emissions a la

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Before you show up with your arguments like "ooh he's so sad to put so much effort in a page like this blahblahblah",
that what you actually have to say disappears. You are able to put down people before they even reply. And if someone dares to reply something you didn't see coming - or something you expected to be said (by me for example), you start a rant at him/her what this or that has got to do with the "discussion". Nothing - or just as much as your insults have.
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I'm probably going to regret this, but here we go:

Seb, I think the fact that you basically call EVERYBODY posting there a complete moron, making fun (or attempting to) of every single post (even though some of them are actually just average, non-idiotic-posts) makes you come over somewhere between whiny and self-exposing. The fact that I only find a handful of your full-on-attacks to be justified takes away a lot of the fun, no matter how funny some of the other comments are.
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I especially liked your comments about Let's Make it Baby

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That stood out too. Good one.
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