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RonJovi · #**121** 03-09-2013, 02:16 AM

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Originally Posted by Iceman

You keep throwing the term "superiority complex" like you know what it means.

No one here is saying they're better (or worse) than you. What they are saying that One Direction or cow farts, it doesn't matter. YOU think it's not good enough, I might think otherwise and I'd be just as right.

One Directions album is probably technically much better than Bon Jovi's, it probably has better songwriters writing songs, more hits on it and it will sell more copies than WAN. There are differences, yes, but not like you'd want there to be.

Seriously, you act like a teenage boy, who's deadly afraid of his girlfriend falling in love with a boy band member.

One Direction is this years NKOTB. More power to them, I hope they sell a shitload of albums. And I don't necessarily like their music, so what? I won't lose anything because of it, neither will you. If someone likes 1D's album better than Bon Jovi's, great! If not, so what?

Ice

Look Sunshine, I've got a pretty good command of the English language, I understand it fine.

You're a lot like a girl I know. You take something and put a ridiculous spin on it. "You keep throwing the term "superiority complex" around." I've used it twice. Bit of an overstatement no?

There are people on this board who look down their noses at others for liking recent Bon Jovi albums. I've seen posts like "How can you rate WAN as 8/10?" The inference behind it is "I'm more clever than you because I know Bon Jovi are shit and you don't".

Those attitudes are symptoms of a superiority complex.

Likewise, there are people who think they are closer to the band and to how music works than everyone else who post patronising rubbish too.

Again with the cow farts...very mature.

RonJovi · #**122** 03-09-2013, 02:28 AM

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Originally Posted by Supersonic

But again, feel free to explain to me where the massive difference is.

Difference to me is three-fold:

1. Bon Jovi write their own songs.
2. Bon Jovi play their own instruments.
3. The lyrical content is very different.

1D are singing about stuff that Bon Jovi were singing about in the 80s. Stuff like Never Say Goodbye and I'll be There for You.

Bon Jovi are singing about social issues. Some of it is cliched rubbish, some of the lyrics are downright terrible but the lyrical content is very different and will appeal to a different audience.

KeepTheFaith2211 · #**123** 03-09-2013, 02:35 AM

Just on the subject of One Direction:

They're harmless and are pretty enjoyable to listen to should they pop up on the radio. I certainly have no beef with them.

RonJovi · #**124** 03-09-2013, 02:44 AM

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Originally Posted by KeepTheFaith2211

Just on the subject of One Direction:

They're harmless and are pretty enjoyable to listen to should they pop up on the radio. I certainly have no beef with them.

Funnily enough neither do I. They are what they are and are pretty good at it. For as long as there has been music there has been a One Direction and that will always be the case.

Alphavictim · #**125** 03-09-2013, 04:58 AM

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Originally Posted by RonJovi

1. Bon Jovi write their own songs.

The only track on the new record that was written without outside help is The Fighter.

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2. Bon Jovi play their own instruments.

It's debatable who actually played on the record. Alec John Such anyone?

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Bon Jovi are singing about social issues. Some of it is cliched rubbish, some of the lyrics are downright terrible but the lyrical content is very different and will appeal to a different audience.

The hell. Who the hell listens to Bon Jovi because of the socially conscious lyrics, hell, the lyrics?

Captain_jovi · #**126** 03-09-2013, 05:25 AM

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Originally Posted by Alphavictim

The only track on the new record that was written without outside help is The Fighter.

It's debatable who actually played on the record. Alec John Such anyone?

The hell. Who the hell listens to Bon Jovi because of the socially conscious lyrics, hell, the lyrics?

I'm seeing similarities but really it's a stretch. Comparing the new album to 1D? Every single songwriter on the album has worked with the band quite a few times. I looked up the album, it's filled with songwriters who aren't in the band. That's not a fair argument at all.

It's such a moot point. A Shanks guitar track here, a session drummer there, they're still the band playing the record.

Alphavictim · #**127** 03-09-2013, 05:29 AM

Sure, but the whole THEY ARE A REAL BAND! thing was what most people use to differentiate their favorite (heavier) band from Bon Jovi who were just a pretty boy with a couple of corporate tunesmiths

It's a bad idea for a criteria if BJ aren't exactly innocent of this practice themselves. Certainly not completely abstinent.

For example - are Take That more of a proper band than Aerosmith since they wrote all their stuff themselves in the 90s?

Captain_jovi · #**128** 03-09-2013, 05:35 AM

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Originally Posted by Alphavictim

Sure, but the whole THEY ARE A REAL BAND! thing was what most people use to differentiate their favorite (heavier) band from Bon Jovi who were just a pretty boy with a couple of corporate tunesmiths

It's a bad idea for a criteria if BJ aren't exactly innocent of this practice themselves. Certainly not completely abstinent.

For example - are Take That more of a proper band than Aerosmith since they wrote all their stuff themselves in the 90s?

I hear what you're saying but it's just....they're a group of guys singing songs someone else writes where as this band is playing songs they co-write with actual instruments. It's not holding up for me.

If they write and play their own stuff they're as equal a band, yah.

Alphavictim · #**129** 03-09-2013, 05:37 AM

Of course it's slightly off. But I'm just trying to put things in perspective a bit here (call it being the devil's advocate or whatever)

Captain_jovi · #**130** 03-09-2013, 05:39 AM

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Originally Posted by Alphavictim

Of course it's slightly off. But I'm just trying to put things in perspective a bit here (call it being the devil's advocate or whatever)

Hahaaha it just seems like a silly argument designed to wind people up.

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