[JackieBlue]

Originally Posted by Captain_jovi

Are you sure? I ran it through a vocal-isolater plugin and it sounds like Richie the whole way through. The "I could write a couple liiiines" is a dead giveaway. 2:08 forward is without question Richie. The first half I'm not positive.

HA! That's exactly where I just stopped playback to come post the same thing.
There's no way that's not him singing "lii-i-ines"; but I'd back it up even further to 1:27. "...If ya stay..." and "... you wanna steal a piece of tii-i-ime..." is pure Richie, too, imo.

RDK, you may be right about the verses, but I'm not sure that what you're hearing isn't Richie emulating Jon's vocal style. He's done that before, where I've had to go back and listen to be sure it was him. I don't know if it's intentional or not, maybe for blend; but I've noticed it in several songs. In this case, while I agree that there are places in the verses that sound like Jon, there are just too many other words in the same places that have Richie's distinctive 'bend' (for want of a better word) for me to believe it's not Richie all the way through.

Including the oooohs, Thinny. It's that li'l hitch in it somewhere, like the Cap'n compared to If I Can't Have Your Love, that just nails it as far as I'm concerned.

[Rdkopper]

I'm not doubting either way...

But I have a pretty good ear picking out Richie's voice and I hear it on everything that contains a lyric...

I'm just trying to figure out if they went back after and added all the additional harmonies, including the ending... and used studio tricks to do it. There are parts where I hear Jon backing himself up and that ending might just be just a random session singer who has a great falsetto.

Again, I'm not calling it either way but I'm not doubting my little conspiracy theory either.

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[bonjovi90]

Jon used to sing some of the backing vocals throughout his career. Blaze Of Glory or These Days album for example.

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[YOVANAfromPeru]

I hear JBJ and Richie.

[liljovi93]

Richie, for me.

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[Rdkopper]

Just listened through a set of headphones - I do hear Richie backing him on some. Others is difficult to tell but I'll give it the benefit of the doubt on that but back to my original question...

I'm not convinced that it's Richie's falsetto at the end.. From what I'm hearing, I'm gearing more towards "no".

Dann Huff is a vocalist and he produced the track... Hummn

[Captain_jovi]

Originally Posted by bonjovi90

Jon used to sing some of the backing vocals throughout his career. Blaze Of Glory or These Days album for example.

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Lie To Me's first chorus is Jon and Jon, Richie's chorus part doesn't even come in until the second time around, for sure. And it sounds great.

[Captain_jovi]

Originally Posted by Rdkopper

Just listened through a set of headphones - I do hear Richie backing him on some. Others is difficult to tell but I'll give it the benefit of the doubt on that but back to my original question...

I'm not convinced that it's Richie's falsetto at the end.. From what I'm hearing, I'm gearing more towards "no".

Dann Huff is a vocalist and he produced the track... Hummn

Dan Huff is credited as playing some instruments on the album. If he was doing vocals he'd probably be credited for that too. Seriously, listen to If I Can't Have Your Love (mainly the intro) and tell me that's not Richie doing Memory.

[bonjovi90]

Originally Posted by Captain_jovi

Lie To Me's first chorus is Jon and Jon, Richie's chorus part doesn't even come in until the second time around, for sure. And it sounds great.

I meant that he was doing the "yeah yeah yeah" part himself on the album

[Thinny]

Originally Posted by Captain_jovi

Lie To Me's first chorus is Jon and Jon, Richie's chorus part doesn't even come in until the second time around, for sure. And it sounds great.

100%

I always thought it was an odd choice to have Jon to the Yeah yeah Yeah bits on Lie to me as Richie would have sounded great on that and would have tied in with the "I Don't Wanna Die No More" part. In fact when I hear that song in my head, I hear Richie doing it. I believe Dave did it live?