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Old 12-30-2020, 04:43 PM
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Pretty much what Seb said. Jon rarely was good at a tour start in comparison to a couple of shows into the tour. Even New Jersey, Keep The Faith or These Days concerts were to have their peak some weeks/months into the tour.

Even when people think that he was sensational in 1993, it was only in a short time frame from mid-March to May. In fact, 1993 was his most inconsistent tour of the first 20 years (leaving the abrupt vocal loss in 1987 aside).

The problem is that he never learned and perfected a certain technique. The way he sang in April of 1993 was pretty much different to the summer of 1995, to the early 2000's and then to his Indian summer from 2008 to 2011. He always just used what was best for the situation without really sticking to a certain way, without perfecting it and without taking too much care of preserving it until it was way too late.
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Jon had Don Lawrence as his vocal coach in the late 80´s.
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When you're young and invincible, you are not looking 35 years into the future... Especially considering a bands shelf life was 10 to 15 years.

Even if he had a coach with him from inception, they didn't have the knowledge that they do today. Today's artists learned from past artists like Jon...

They are so many great vocalists who lost their talent from the 80s. Mariah Carey immediately comes to mind.

Vocal surgery was definitely more of a risk back then as well... When you hear that artists like Adele had surgery, it makes you wonder what happened to cause that and would she had been able to recover without it?

Jon has changed his vocal techniques so many times between albums and tours. Even though I complained during the time, it was suitable for him. After 2013, it all suddenly went down hill very fast.

Because surgery is not an option, Jon is now relearning how to sing. I've actually noticed some improvements but nothing to get too excited for.

Besides his tone being more raw, he is using too many tricks that make his songs unenjoyable.

Slowing them down, singing behind them, changing lyrics, skipping lyrics, combining lyrics, mumbling them.






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Old 12-31-2020, 01:39 PM
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When you're young and invincible, you are not looking 35 years into the future... Especially considering a bands shelf life was 10 to 15 years.

Even if he had a coach with him from inception, they didn't have the knowledge that they do today. Today's artists learned from past artists like Jon...

They are so many great vocalists who lost their talent from the 80s. Mariah Carey immediately comes to mind.

Vocal surgery was definitely more of a risk back then as well... When you hear that artists like Adele had surgery, it makes you wonder what happened to cause that and would she had been able to recover without it?

Jon has changed his vocal techniques so many times between albums and tours. Even though I complained during the time, it was suitable for him. After 2013, it all suddenly went down hill very fast.

Because surgery is not an option, Jon is now relearning how to sing. I've actually noticed some improvements but nothing to get too excited for.

Besides his tone being more raw, he is using too many tricks that make his songs unenjoyable.

Slowing them down, singing behind them, changing lyrics, skipping lyrics, combining lyrics, mumbling them.






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Jon will never relearn how to sing properly. He’s shot for good, sadly.
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Interview to Everett Bradley: https://www.rollingstone.com/music/m...-jovi-1104365/
Everett: Jon makes a plan and he sticks to the plan. He doesn’t deviate much. That’s just kind of how he rolls. That’s how he rolls as a business guy, too. It makes sense and it works for him. There’s comfort in that.
He has audibles at the end, but you know what audibles are in the mix. There’s no surprises.
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Old 01-09-2021, 04:18 AM
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"Me identifiqué mucho con Elvis, sí. Me encanta su estilo de canto, era un tipo muy leal, estaba un poco engañado, pero en general era un buen tipo." -Jon Bon Jovi
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Just read a bit through scans of old BWJBJ magazines (around 1989-1992). They always had a Q&A with Jon in them. Some song info:
- the band never recorded Cadillac Man in the studio
- The Sole Truth was never fully recorded for the KTF album
- Fighter For Love was actually written and given to Peter Frampton who didn't end up recording the song after all
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Just read a bit through scans of old BWJBJ magazines (around 1989-1992). They always had a Q&A with Jon in them. Some song info:

- the band never recorded Cadillac Man in the studio

- The Sole Truth was never fully recorded for the KTF album

- Fighter For Love was actually written and given to Peter Frampton who didn't end up recording the song after all
That's why its important for us to get these songs in some type of professional recording. Both Live and Demo format.



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Old 01-09-2021, 07:23 PM
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That's why its important for us to get these songs in some type of professional recording. Both Live and Demo format.



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Completely agreed. Just found it interesting in terms of us sorting through what possibly is out there and in which kind of recording format
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Just read a bit through scans of old BWJBJ magazines (around 1989-1992). They always had a Q&A with Jon in them. Some song info:
- the band never recorded Cadillac Man in the studio
- The Sole Truth was never fully recorded for the KTF album
- Fighter For Love was actually written and given to Peter Frampton who didn't end up recording the song after all
Had no idea Fighter for Love went past that writing session. NEAT! Always amused me the rhyming scheme came back in Undivided.
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