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Old 02-24-2024, 02:56 PM
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Picking up on that. There's a misconception that Jon's voice was always good in the 90's. It was actually a lot of up and down. Sure, even the bad nights were on a pretty solid level. But 1993 had a lot of fluctuations, he was struggling at the start of the tour (listen to things like East Rutherford or Ottawa early on), then ramped up near the end of the first US leg, carried it through Europe to Japan and then had to go more into "preservation mode" for the second half of the year (meaning that the voice was still there, but he used much less rasp, dodged some demanding lines and started switching songs like In These Arms or Dry County in and out).
Going into 1995, it was a good level throughout, but really ramped up from the summer tour onwards to the year's final in South Africa.
London was great, Always spot on, but what "killed" him there was them playing three 150/160 min shows on three consecutive nights. Night 2 was stellar and far better than round 1 and 3. Lord knows why they chose to record on Sunday instead of Saturday, given their own experience from past tours. From the encore onwards, his voice fell flat in comparison to the standards back then. There's a reason why the second half of the show was only put on the video with Hey God, Wanted and TAALS (all of them had overdubbed vocal lines in there). In Bed Of Roses, Richie almost doubled him on the entire song and These Days was really disappointing.
If you listen to the unaltered show from the radio broadcast, you notice it much more:

Always was absolutely great, no doubt! But the performances from Night 2 in London and Jones Beach or from Burgettstown and Milwaukee might just have edged it out for me.
In fact, during all their 4 big albums, the most stable his voice was for a consecutive period was 1989
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Such great information and really useful getting the full picture. I remember listening to the live radio broadcast at the time (still have it) and was just so happy with the sound quality...alot of that was the whole sound with me as much as Jon's singing but I remember the first half much more and never realised he tailed off as it went on or even damaged his voice specifically. And I thought the official b-sides of it were about the best the band could be.

I've got a pleasing smile about the 1989 comment. I'm kind of obsessed with the New Jersey tour performances (I joined the forum about the live versions and the cancelled live album). Even now, I'm loving the obi 1989 and wembley arena 1988 performances on the archive and am improving my collection all the time! He does sound good, but always thought he got better 93-96! Maybe he didn't and was never 100% consistent any period.

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Jon and Brett Michael's at a race track this weekend.

Would love a Jovi / Poison tour

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About one song that I love… Mystery Train


https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=WQ-YPr...eSB0cmFpbiA%3D

At the minute 3:43

It was an error in the final mix when the song it was made that seems almost a hiccup by Jon?

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About one song that I love… Mystery Train


https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=WQ-YPr...eSB0cmFpbiA%3D

At the minute 3:43

It was an error in the final mix when the song it was made that seems almost a hiccup by Jon?
I've always noticed that too. I just thought it was just a digital bleep.
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Old 03-21-2024, 08:58 AM
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I've always noticed that too. I just thought it was just a digital bleep.
Sounds like a very quick intake of breath to me.
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And the breath intakes on Just Older are much worse

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I think I've asked this brefore but can't find the links, does anyone have the video of Phil recording the Walls solo / Shanks and Phil recording the backing vocals?
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Old 03-21-2024, 02:12 PM
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I think I've asked this brefore but can't find the links, does anyone have the video of Phil recording the Walls solo / Shanks and Phil recording the backing vocals?
I can't find Phil recording the walls solo anymore nowhere.

I just found this...

https://www.facebook.com/PhilXFanClu...2462893815571/
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Interesting. Jon seems happy to air the dirty laundry....
https://youtu.be/itzP9I7k6lM?si=irfuVTnFxQFS_bqT
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