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Rdkopper · #**831** 02-23-2019, 12:23 AM

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Originally Posted by DestinationJovi

https://ftw.usatoday.com/2019/02/ada...-kraft-scandal

https://www.wthr.com/article/patriot...-investigation

Jon was the performer at the Everglades Foundation fundraiser. I think the likelihood is very slim, but my God, I sure as hell hope the bigger name isn't Jon.

I love how important it is to point out how he's friends with Donald Trump... I'm sure the media will say this is Trumps fault. Just for the record, all of Hollywood was friends with Trump before he was President including Hillary Clinton.

It's amazing how this all comes full circle. Kraft is friends with Trump. Jon hates Trump. Jon wants to be Kraft.

The media controls the news, the news is controlled by Hollywood, Hollywood is ran by Democrats. The only ones fooled are the general public... But aren't the democrats supposed to be the good guys?

Robert Kraft donated $204,300 from 2008 to 2014 (63.8 percent to Democrats).

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YOVANAfromPeru · #**832** 02-23-2019, 01:13 AM

This is a Robert Kraft problem, why they have to mention Donald Trump or Jon Bon Jovi??

JackieBlue · #**833** 02-23-2019, 02:20 AM

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Originally Posted by YOVANAfromPeru

This is a Robert Kraft problem, why they have to mention Donald Trump or Jon Bon Jovi??

Headlines, sensationalism, and guilt by association. Anything to get more clicks. They have sports, entertainment, politics, and business all in one fell swoop. Chances are if people aren't interested in all four areas, they're probably interested in at least one of them.

Rdkopper · #**834** 02-23-2019, 02:27 AM

The headlines made it seem much more worse than what it was (because that's what they do).

YOVANAfromPeru · #**835** 02-23-2019, 02:27 AM

yeahh, but this is a VERY serious thing, they should mention when they have some proofs... whatever

JackieBlue · #**836** 02-23-2019, 03:59 AM

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Originally Posted by YOVANAfromPeru

yeahh, but this is a VERY serious thing, they should mention when they have some proofs... whatever

According to reports, they have Kraft on videotape performing sexual acts. I don't know much about it except for what I read online today; but according to one attorney the common defense for soliciting or prostitution is "mutual consent." I'm not sure how that figures in, if the prostitute is in business willingly, since to me that would imply mutual consent. Seems like that would undermine any prostitution law.

I think it's pretty obvious that the most serious part of this, both legally and morally, would be the human trafficking or sexual servitude angle. There have already been reports about the dire living conditions of some of the women involved; and I would think that could get real ugly, real fast. Especially if they can prove that the men who are charged were aware of that.

YOVANAfromPeru · #**837** 02-23-2019, 05:44 AM

I was talking about my post before (DT and JBJ), not about Robert Kraft problem.
Donald Trump has already spoke about it and Jon Bon Jovi is not on the list of the 25 men involved in that situation.

Dicanio · #**838** 02-23-2019, 01:28 PM

The Obie thing was far more serious than this and that had no effect on Jon’s reputation at all.

liljovi93 · #**839** 02-23-2019, 03:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Dicanio

The Obie thing was far more serious than this and that had no effect on Jon’s reputation at all.

What's this?

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JackieBlue · #**840** 02-23-2019, 03:54 PM

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Originally Posted by YOVANAfromPeru

I was talking about my post before (DT and JBJ), not about Robert Kraft problem.
Donald Trump has already spoke about it and Jon Bon Jovi is not on the list of the 25 men involved in that situation.

Then I guess I didn't understand why you said they should have proof. As far as I know, no one has tried to implicate Trump or JBJ in the investigation itself. Trump only addressed it because he was asked in a routine press briefing what he thought about the Kraft situation; and there's no reason to think Jon's name might be on the list of 25 (which is apparently only a partial list, btw).

The reports I've read just say that Kraft's wealth and the Patriots make it possible for him to hang around with celebrities and politicos; and they mentioned JBJ and Trump (among others) as examples. Probably because those friendships are common knowledge; and including their names just helps grab attention from different circles.

If you weren't referring to the allegations against Kraft, what are you saying they should have proof of? Not debating, just curious.

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