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Old 08-13-2012, 06:14 PM
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Edit: Yes, I have missed a P in the title, if a mod is friendly to update it

Right...there's a theory I have here and wanted to see what other people thought.
Guns N' Roses arrived right between Slippery and New Jersey. And while many people think that Slippery actually paved the way for Appetite to become the success it became, I also think that Appetite greatly influenced New Jersey. Bon Jovi definitely went in that direction, which made New Jersey the success it became.

First and foremost, it's a much heavier record than Slippery. Be it the opening riffs of Lay Your Hands on Me, the distorted guitars on Wild is the Wind or the grit and heaviness of Homebound Train. Then, New Jersey is the first BJ record where you can hear BLUES influences. Be it I'll Be There For You, Love for Sale or again, Homebound Train which is nothing but a blues song on steroids. Appetite was basically a very heavy blues record mixed with some punk and Bon Jovi took some of that into their sound. Then, there's Jon's vocals which sound a lot rougher than on Slippery. There's moments where they are menacing even...like the "Ha!" in Lay Your Hands on Me. And maybe last is the increased "sexuality" of the lyrics.

Of course, Jersey still had the safe trademarks of Slippery, be it Born to Be My Baby or 99 in the Shade but overall, it moved closer to what Appetite represented. Jon was even wearing a MISFITS patch on his coat.

You might say it was just a natural evolution of the band, which I actually also believe. There's unbelievable songs like Living in Sin or even I'll Be There for You which would be outside the reach of Guns n' Roses. But overall, I don't think New Jersey would have quite become such a monster of a record, without the arrival of those 5 mother****ers from Los Angeles.

Edit 2: And yes, together with Back in Black, these are the two best hard rock records of the 80s, hands down!
Those 5 mother****ers from Los Angeles had no influence on Bon Jovi music what so ever. This entire synopsis is beyond ridicules.

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Old 08-13-2012, 06:18 PM
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Those 5 mother****ers from Los Angeles had no influence on Bon Jovi music what so ever. This entire synopsis is beyond ridicules.

This post should be deleted based on stupidity
Oh look, they let you type again. Part of therapy?
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Old 08-13-2012, 06:21 PM
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If there was a video I'd have to pick, it'd be Good Guys Don't always Wear White though. That one just screams Guns N' Roses somehow.
Which one? Garden of Eden? Because they are fast moving?


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Old 08-13-2012, 06:28 PM
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Which one? Garden of Eden? Because they are fast moving?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LuhLVl5qf2A

Before you agree check out the dates the videos were made
Actually, I was thinking about the band being on the roof of a building a bit in the vein of Don't Cry, with Axl running around and lots of close-ups of Slash and the rest of the band. And the imagery of fast cars (which are part of the clip in Don't Cry and are part of the movie in Good Guys). But I can see Garden of Eden too, now that you mention it. Cheers.
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This entire synopsis is beyond ridicules.
As is your spelling of "ridiculous".

He was just posting a theory. He's not betting his or your life on it. No, it shouldn't be deleted just because of stupidity. It's not stupid, it's just a theory that DevilsSon had and posted about.

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As is your spelling of "ridiculous".

He was just posting a theory. He's not betting his or your life on it. No, it shouldn't be deleted just because of stupidity. It's not stupid, it's just a theory that DevilsSon had and posted about.

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definition of ridicules

Words or actions intended to evoke contemptuous laughter at or feelings toward a person or thing.

Get it Troll?

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definition of ridicules

Words or actions intended to evoke contemptuous laughter at or feelings toward a person or thing.

Get it Troll?
OK, sorry. I would've got it if I heard it out loud.

But I'm not the one trolling. Your post was just downright rude. You can respectfully disagree.
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Even if Appetite didn't influenced New Jersey, Guns N' Roses surely changed clothing style of Bon Jovi and other 80's rock'n'roll bands. After '87 Jovi, Poison and others started to look in a more sleazy way. Before it it was more about glam n colours, start from there, there was more of the leather, jeans and more traditional rock look.

Back to music, 'Lay Your Hands On Me' chorus sounds a bit like 'Paradise City' because of the same key progression.
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Even if Appetite didn't influenced New Jersey, Guns N' Roses surely changed clothing style of Bon Jovi and other 80's rock'n'roll bands. After '87 Jovi, Poison and others started to look in a more sleazy way. Before it it was more about glam n colours, start from there, there was more of the leather, jeans and more traditional rock look.

Back to music, 'Lay Your Hands On Me' chorus sounds a bit like 'Paradise City' because of the same key progression.
That's a very good point. As about Paradise City... ever noticed how the jam that Phil X used to do when Richie was out made the song sound just like the Paradise City outro?
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