Are Bon Jovi too rich to make another classic album?

You can tell when a record becomes a classic , by public response, ie nearly everyone has the record or knows about it. When SWW came out I you could see it would be a classic at the time fo release.

Dawn

Then you are one of the few.

Yeah, but even this comes with time.

Well, ok, but I never said Crush or Bounce are classics...
Though I don't see what TD song is well known to a lot of non-Jovi fans.

That's not true. You just were right with SWW, but ask yourself: with how many albums weren't you? Plus, in the fast business of today there is almost no place for classic albums, at most classic singles - if there is such a thing. There are no longer albums with 7 Top Ten hits out of 12 songs like Springsteen's Born In The U.S.A.

See you're just assumign that they sat downa nd went k we need 12 pop songs that will sell records when chances are it's not true at all and the tunes on bounce are actually what they felt like writing.

I dunno about you but them saying they didnt want to write too much about 9/11 was actually a good thing. I dont want to be sitting listening to a full record full of songs reminding me about that and im sure they didnt either.

I'm not assuming anything, Jon and Richie said they wrote songs to fit people's mood a year after 9/11 when their inspiration was about "just after" 9/11. So they did bet on what the people would want to hear rather than what they felt like playing. No balance.

I understand that, but I wouldn't have really cared.

Ponrauil

But THEY decided they didn't want to go that way because A: the public don't want to listen to records that remind them of shit times and B: they dont want to be reminded of shit times everytime they play a tune off it or hear it so it went 2 ways with them changign there mind.

Dawn wrote:
You can tell when a record becomes a classic , by public response, ie nearly everyone has the record or knows about it. When SWW came out I you could see it would be a classic at the time fo release.


PON WROTE That's not true. You just were right with SWW, but ask yourself: with how many albums weren't you? Plus, in the fast business of today there is almost no place for classic albums, at most classic singles - if there is such a thing. There are no longer albums with 7 Top Ten hits out of 12 songs like Springsteen's Born In The U.S.A.

No I wasnt just write , you cant tell what will be a classic hit and what wont by reaction, I havent got it wrong so far in 20 yrs and its more that just guessing. Its obvious, if everyone is playing a record , they will remember the record and therefore it will become a classic. Heres another example, Europe had a hit with the final countdown, everyone knew it, it was being played everywhere, they werent a big band and never made it big, it was their biggest hit, I couldnt even name an album they had, but most people remember the song, therefore this could be called a classic. Surely it is therefore the popularity of the song that makes it a classic or not.

I think that an old band called Journey had some great personal classic songs, they didnt really have any hits and most people dont know who they are, therefore they wont be seen as classics, but they are to me.

Dawn

They had their reasons yes. What I'm saying is that they went against their inspiration. Maybe they should have waited for their inspiration to change rather than force themselves to being positive.

Ponrauil

Who or what is PON?

These are all old bands and btw I know them!
I was saying...
firstly, becoming a classic is also a matter of time. No recent release is already a classic.
Secondly, nowadays (!), every once in a while songs come up that everybody knows or owns, yet, these aren't classics, time and fashion goes too fast.
Therefore it's great BJ are still as big as they are, yet, their time for classics was much earlier. IML was already a big surprise, imo.

I was reading an interview the other day with Bryan adams who said that if he'd released his best album "Reckless" today, everybody would have laughed and ignored it.

The point transfers across to Bon jovi, No way would slippery sell today in the numbers it did back then. The music business is a very different place today, and bands need to keep on their toes to try to stay ahead.

Bounce n crush werent brilliant, but they were imho not to bad either!! so lets just wait n see what the break brings as I believe the boys have still got what it takes, just a question of the record company letting them run with it!!!!

Aloha !

Yes. Too bad the guy doesn't realize a lot of people laugh at his latest attempts to rock too.

Salaam Aleikum,
Sebastiaan