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Old 09-10-2003, 11:43 PM
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Goose, I think Jon is a good songwriter: Bed of Roses, Blaze of Glory, Dry County...

And I want to know if those interviews are really true
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Jon Bon Jovi is a smooth talking, egotistical pretty boy with really not all that much musical talent. He has written some excellent songs, but really without Richie Sambora he is nothing special and when singing live his voice goes from strong and gritty to whiny and nasal. Sometimes I think the rest of the band should fire Jon and re-christen themselves "Sambora"."
Heheh..and watch how many fans walk away! Jon and Richie are what sells the band. One without the other just wouldn't work.
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I think Becky will come here soon:

http://rockhole.bravepages.com/bonjovi.html

" Jon Bon Jovi is a smooth talking, egotistical pretty boy with really not all that much musical talent. He has written some excellent songs, but really without Richie Sambora he is nothing special and when singing live his voice goes from strong and gritty to whiny and nasal. Sometimes I think the rest of the band should fire Jon and re-christen themselves "Sambora"."

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Why waste my time writing out an extensive comment on a load of complete bullshit? It's obvious that article was written by some disgruntled Richie fan who is jealous as hell of Jon's accomplishments and resents that Richie hasn't achieved the same level of success and fame outside the band. Things like this are ridiculous because they perpetuate the idea of a fued between Jon and Richie. The only fued is between Richie FANS and Jon FANS. Jon and Richie love each other dearly and that is quite evident to anyone who can see or hear. It's silly to write things putting them at odds with one another when they work out and work past their problems themselves.

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I think Becky will come here soon:

http://rockhole.bravepages.com/bonjovi.html

" Jon Bon Jovi is a smooth talking, egotistical pretty boy with really not all that much musical talent. He has written some excellent songs, but really without Richie Sambora he is nothing special and when singing live his voice goes from strong and gritty to whiny and nasal. Sometimes I think the rest of the band should fire Jon and re-christen themselves "Sambora"."

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Why waste my time writing out an extensive comment on a load of complete bullshit? It's obvious that article was written by some disgruntled Richie fan who is jealous as hell of Jon's accomplishments and resents that Richie hasn't achieved the same level of success and fame outside the band. Things like this are ridiculous because they perpetuate the idea of a fued between Jon and Richie. The only fued is between Richie FANS and Jon FANS. Jon and Richie love each other dearly and that is quite evident to anyone who can see or hear. It's silly to write things putting them at odds with one another when they work out and work past their problems themselves.

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just cos u may not agree with the comments, dont mean its 'complete bullshit'
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I think there is no fight between Jon and Richie fans. I like JOn, I love Richie.

I think I canīt say the same thing about Jon fans. Joncentrism.
Even donīt want Richie to sing only ONE song in a BJ album...
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just cos u may not agree with the comments, dont mean its 'complete bullshit'
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not really,

Because he just wants to be a star. - true to an extent
ok so what? he IS a star!

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Because he's a bad songwriter. - to an extent again, true
so you're a fan of a band whose lead singer and main songwriter is crap? and how do you exactly define a bad songwriter?

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Because he gets all the credit - also true, although not really Jons fault
here i partially agree. but i think that it his his fault because as far as i'm concerned he's selfish and he wants to get all the credit himself. i don't think he gives the other band members much freedom.

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Because of all this "Blood on Blood" rubbish. - true, Dave Sabo wasnt treated well, Jons former number 1 bodyguard, who regarded Jon as his bet friend ever - was dumped with no real reason given etc etc
i agree again

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Because he can't sing anymore - debatable
no, that's not true. of course his voice doesn't sound as it did in the past but he still can sing very well. after all richie's voice has never been better than jon's- not even now.

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Because he doesn't respect the people who put him where he is. Jon once said "I can't believe how stupid and shallow our fans are. They think we sing about love. Our songs are about lust, not love." Do I really need to comment on that? He hasn't finished either. On a trip to Sweden he said "The Swedish fans are not loyal." - speaks for itself
come on! give me a break here! even if those interviews are true i prefer him this way than being all good and sweet. at least he's being honest. (i, too, believe that some (mainly female) jovi fans are stupid :P )

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Because he cheats on his wife. Here's what Jon said on MTV on July 4, 1990. "The way I look at it is you're only married within the state lines. There are 49 other states, we can have 49 other relationships." Now that's just not cool. - well known fact, although hes not exactly the only person in the world to do it..
first of all it's his life and he can do whatever he wants with it. and secondly you're not like those girls who believe that jon is a saint just because he's their idol, are you? the funny thing is when someone even mentions something "bad" jon did they get mad because you burst their bubble they were living into. he's a human and he has the right to act like one. moreover he's a rockstar!


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Because he thinks too highly of himself. In a recent interview Jon compared the songwriting battles and inner tensions between him and Sambora to the relationship between, wait for it… Lennon and McCartney. Give me a break! The greatest songwriting partnership in rock & roll history is being compared to Bon Jovi? The reason for battles and tensions between BJ and Sambora are because Sambora is a master and Bon Jovi is a peddler of trite rubbish and poor Richie has to try to get a decent song out of all that. - ehehe, although comparing yourself to Lennon et al is rather big headed
big headed? ok... but at least we can't say he doesn't deserve to be like that. he's a great songwriter and bon jovi are one of the biggest rock bands of all time!
(have you ever read a coldplay interview? do it if you want to see what real big headed jerks say. )


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Reporter: There is no natural second single to "It's My Life"
Jon: Kiss my ass. "Say it Isn't So" will become a huge hit and "Thank you for loving me" will be the big ballad.
[Both singles bombed]
Reporter: How do you feel about saying that now when both singles have failed?
Jon: You can still kiss my ass. - heh
i think that was a great answer! don't you?
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come on! give me a break here! even if those interviews are true i prefer him this way than being all good and sweet. at least he's being honest. (i, too, believe that some (mainly female) jovi fans are stupid )
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Why is this guy's article complete bullshit?

1. He can't get his facts straight. Jon never auditioned for Footloose. RS has not written ANY song on a BJ album by himself, nor has Holly Knight. David didn't originally write In These Arms. The song is a hybrid.
This person was not privy to the songwriting sessions and he's making unbased presumptions based on what he wants to say. We only know what goes on with songwriting so far as the band tells us.

2. Skid Row: Richie also earned money from Skid Row's album and if Jon and Richie truly wrote those songs as is speculated, they deserve it. They had publishing rights which a songwriter has. According to Snake Sabo, Richie did NOT give back the money.

3. He can't take a JOKE. Anyone who has that interview with Jon from 1990 could tell you he was laughing and flirting with Julie Brown the entire time for the sake of a gag. Some of his other quotes are questionable because he hasn't given sources. I could say that Jon once said "I'm really an alien sent here to take over the earth" but I couldn't back it with anything that other fans could track down.

4. Fan club: That history has been posted several times. Jon's mother renamed the club for legitimate reasons and if you wanted to point fingers, they'd be aimed at Richie and Mrs. B. for their tensions. He promised her an interview and then backed out of it. She puts up with crap from no one.

It appears the only way he can find to build up Richie and the other band members is to tear Jon down. If he wanted to write an effective article about how great the other guys are, he would focus on THEM and not on Jon.

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Because he cheats on his wife. Here's what Jon said on MTV on July 4, 1990. "The way I look at it is you're only married within the state lines. There are 49 other states, we can have 49 other relationships." Now that's just not cool. - well known fact, although hes not exactly the only person in the world to do it..


first of all it's his life and he can do whatever he wants with it. and secondly you're not like those girls who believe that jon is a saint just because he's their idol, are you? the funny thing is when someone even mentions something "bad" jon did they get mad because you burst their bubble they were living into. he's a human and he has the right to act like one. moreover he's a rockstar!
isn't that rediculous? Everytime they want him to do something 'bad' to proove that he's a 'real' rockstar,and when he does so it's terrible again!
same with the pick up lines. Aren't Rockstars supposed to do exactly that?
but if others do that, it is said 'oh yeah, they are rockstars, they use to do'
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