Backstage

Personally, i could care less about what goes on and how they handle themselves at backstage. Let them have their fun or whatever. They have their own thing going on over there and we have our own thing here.

I just read the posts at bsjbj and I was really shocked! Since when have we've been in a competition? And it's not true that we are saying bad things about Jon and the others. It's just our opinion and we discuss. Or isn't it??????

JERSEY

*Sigh* And here I was, thinking that maybe, in the 21st Century, discrimination didn't exist anyomore. How can you possibly pre-judge someone without getting to know anything about them purely by the message board they post on?

Backstage is the official messageboard. That fact doesn't make it any better than us. Similarly, it doesn't make us any better than them that we are an unofficial board. However, because it is official, it is the place where most new fans will probably get started. It's the logical place for new fans to go. It doesn't instantly mean that they are drawn there because they are physically attracted to the band. How can you therefore judge them all as being the same? Neil talks about them all liking the band only for Jon's looks. You might as well say that 100% of people between the ages of 13 and 19 are criminals. Its a ridiculous stereotype, and blatantly untrue. Over in that thread, a lot of them believe the entire population of this board to be yobs and hoodlums. An equally ridiculous conclusion to reach, yes? So do we persist in stereotyping them, all the while complaining about them doing the same to us?

Man, imagine if you started working somewhere new, where you knew nobody. And every time you tried to talk to anyone, they ridiculed you, refused to help you with any questions you had, and generally made you feel unwelcome? That's essentially what a group of people do here. Anyone who is new and is not used to "King" Sebastiaan's, or asskisser Thierry's sense of humour is fair game for the amusement you derive from tormenting others, aren't they? Yes, its jsut a messageboard, but just because you don't think it's really important, and that the people you meet here mean nothing, everyone has different views. Not everyone shares your view.

So yeah. You won't change. You'll probably pick this apart line by line, swearing and insulting me in every reply, trying to appear tough and/or funny. Whatever gives you an erection mate, fair play to you. But I just had to say that this board is becoming a joke now. Yes, I personally prefer it to Backstage, but that doesn't make Backstagers inferior. A little more positive maybe. Yeah, some of them seem a tad, uh, brainless... but then some of us here are the same. You could say they are blind followers, and maybe they are. So you guys just go back to provoking Backstagers, deliberately not being happy with anything the band do in order to get a cheap laugh, and generally pissing off a large amount of people for your own personal amusement. And make sure you enjoy it. Because a lot of other people won't

I didn't mean to imply that everyone there loves Jon or that everyone here hates him or anything like that, just that the general consensus seems that way. Obviously the majority of people like the music, but there does seem to be people who like them and go to show just to see Jon, which is sad, and what I reffered to by the teenage regression remark.

Unfortunately discrimination does still exist, personally it doesn't bother me that people like Bon Jovi just to stare at Jon, just that I find it a waste of time to spend so much time obsessing over something. I like Bon Jovi's music so I post on this message board, albeit a large section of the board is not related to the band, and is just a place for people to chat and make friends.

From what I've heard though the problems at Backstage occur because no-one is willing to accept that some people may not like the band for whatever reason or they disagree with someone over some trivial matter.

The problems here with arguments usually begin due to conflicting personalities, not always over a specific matter.

I'm not saying as such that we're better than them, but it is my opinion that obsession is not a good thing, and few people here at least seem to have that sort of obsession.

But if you think about it the looks are an added bonus!

Aloha !

I've never bashed someone new who had a serious intelligent question about the music. I only bash newbies that come posting over here to "vote for Jon as the sexiest man alive in 2005!!!" I fvcking hate those people and they don't have a clue what it's all about. If you can tell me about one post in which I did the things you're describing for no good reason I will take my words back.

And because not everyone shares our view, there are discussions started. Very often it ends with a few posters saying "Give Jon a break blabla more bollocks" without participating in the actual discussion. And then according to your distorted view we're the bad guys that don't give a newbie a chance. Also, people are way too soon offended. When they're being told they're wrong they get upset because someone else knows better. If you don't like something like that, don't start posting on a messageboard for fvcks sake.

Salaam Aleikum,
Sebastiaan

I have never been a fan of backstage, even from the early days, I felt uncomfortable about the amount of I Love Jon posts, Jon has a sexy left toe nail posts , usually made by grown woman. I couldnt take it anymore there or at BJ.com when they had boards, so I came here and in those days the Dry county board made sense. people discussing issues and it was a real forum with heart. We were known for our bluntness but it was in a good respect way.

Unfortunately now I think JT board has gone down hill , a lot of the posts are just based on people trying to get attention, a childish reaction , and to much swearing is allowed, not to mention the pornography. This type of behaviour has sadly brought this board down to an unrespected level, I actually think that is the aim of some of the people using this board , they have no concern for it really and therefore they try to create discord here constantly. Im shocked now and have been for a while at what is allowed to be posted by these individuals, if they are allowed to carry on then this board will cease as many of us have known it.

Dawn

while this opinion of yours is, undoubtedly shared by several people, I am convinced that this same humor and blunt speech is very appreciated by others and may very well have caused a number of people to stay. So, I am sure it all equals out in the end.

Aloha !

Just because you believe in God doesn't mean I'm not allowed to swear. Also, there's nothing pornographic about my image but sadly a lot of people think so just because Bert and Ernie show their willy's. A toy can not be pornographic. People just don't get it, including you.

You are one of the people that have brought this board down to an unrespectect level since all the movie, FAG and whatever forums came and the NBJ section is more busy than the General discussion forum even when Bon Jovi is in the spotlights. And you're one of the biggest posters when it comes to that. This board was about Bon Jovi. It now is about look at how many posts I can get.

Even though the discussion that are being held here might be silly, they're still about the music and Bon Jovi related. Instead of posts like "I make a slowchat so I can get rid of my rank cos I hate it". Those things have brought the board down. Not things like this.

Salaam Aleikum,
Sebastiaan

The only thing wrong with these "swear" words is your perception of them. You have been conditioned to believe that somehow a word can be wrong. The same with the nudity you refer to as pornography. Todays culture sees nudity as a crime, if I walked down the street nude with a large gun someone would phone the police saying "There's a naked man in the street".

Like Seb said his signature is not pornographic as it is just toys. If you put a couple of barbie dolls on top of each other is that pornographic because it looks a bit like they're having sex? No. Just another way you've been conditioned to believe that its wrong, and that things you find offensive shouldn't be seen or heard by anyone.