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Originally Posted by Savvi
BLASPHEMY! I do like I Want You and I love Stay, but BOR omg <3
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The thing with BOR is, would you really express the feelings the song tries to evoke using those particular words? To me the most powerful lyrics are the ones that paint a picture in your mind. That’s why clichés are so used (and abused) when writing a song, you immediately associate a feeling, a state of mind, you don’t have to really listen to the lyric to react. But going to the other extreme and writing something too vague and/or poetical requires someone who can pull it off (Leonard Cohen was a freaking poet, he didn’t wake up one day and thought “let’s throw some big words in there”) and has made this kind of songwriting their trademark. You can’t simply grab a thesaurus and change some words and expect to sound sincere. You may fool some people, but at the end of the day it’s just an empty vessel. You could write this word to sound generic or this other word to sound more serious, but you are deliberately trying to achieve something, you are crafting a product, not sitting down strumming a guitar/playing a piano and putting YOUR feelings into YOUR words.
I’m probably not making any sense and I wasn't talking about BOR in particular, but about the whole "poetic lyrics are better because they sound much more serious" nonsense. Let’s see if I can explain myself better. I love big words. My favorite writer is Dostoievsky. I’ve read The Silmarillion a dozen times. When I used to write about the X Files, I did those waaaaay too long and waaaaay too pedantic reviews (I was 18 though, I grew out of it, but I still have a penchant for writing too much). But when it comes to music, I’ve always felt that the simplest lyrics usually sound the most sincere and make me react more than the elaborated ones. Even though I like songs with pretentious, poetic, elaborated lyrics, but I find it difficult to relate most of the time.
Take this
And I blame this world for making a good man evil
It's this world that can drive a good man mad
And it's this world that turns a killer into a hero
Well I blame this world for making a good man bad
Simple words, simple ideas, nothing too fancy. But you can feel the despair the lyrics are trying to convey. The delivery helps a lot I know, but you get what I mean. There are many BJ lyrics over the years that I love because I’ve felt and thought the same. You wouldn’t write an essay for most situations/feelings. You would have an emotional knee-jerk reaction. If you need to overemphasize said reaction, it’s probably not as pure and sincere.
I’m not saying BOR is insincere. I just think it’s a little bit too much sometimes, it walks the line and depending on my mood sometimes falls into the “trying way too hard” category. I could live without many of the lyrics. The saving grace is 1.Richie, 2.The period it was written which makes me believe they come from a pure place and 3.The totally 90s video
Compare BOR to Miss Fourth Of July. Same era. Similar themes. Vaguely similar artsy lyrics and melancholic atmosphere. But Miss Fourth uses this simple melody to frame very straightforward lyrics, you know what you are getting, but the song ends up sucking you in because you realize you relate to the feeling behind those simple words, you forge a connection, whereas BOR feels like it’s trying to tell you all the time what to feel and punctuating with big words because it’s a powerful feeling, as if you haven’t still realized.
I probably ended up making even less sense so feel free to ignore my crazy ravings