BJ Christmas song on instagram?

BJFan99 · #31 12-10-2017, 09:38 AM

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Originally Posted by KSantaFe

I actually do think there's a hint of autotune there... is it just me? Regardless, it's nice to hear Jon hit a relatively high note for a change, and credit to him for putting himself out there. He was obviously very aware of his vocal issues and seems to be trying to address them to some degree. I will be very excited for a 2018 tour if he can improve his breathing and timing - that's my biggest issue with his vocals since the BWC tour.

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There's no autotune - it would be heard far more audibly if that was the case. The note sounds completely normal, without a hint of that robot-like "compressed" sound we've been hearing on the official THINFS tour multitrack recordings, the MetLife 2013 live stream etc. It's obviously live. After all, Jon pushes that note out of his lungs like it was a matter of life and death for him, and I don't think a C5 is exactly an impossible note for him to hit even nowadays (on a one-off fashion at least), as he could still hit a couple of nice B4s on These Days at the Hyde Park show on July 5, 2013 while falling somewhat flat on the A4s of It's My Life and Keep The Faith as well as on the G4s of Bad Name back then already.

See for yourselves:

https://youtu.be/VNtLjw1DKsM

He hits every single note on all the choruses and even nails the two high "ain't nobody LEFT BUT US these days..." parts at the end of the song like a boss.

Then again, here we have him struggling mightily throughout the same song just a few months later:

https://youtu.be/p2YgW6POegA

A deterioration of this level can't be natural within such a short time between the performances.

His range is obviously not shot, but he can no longer control it like he used to. That, as I've noted already, is due to his confidence problem.

liljovi93 · #32 12-10-2017, 10:20 AM

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Originally Posted by Rdkopper

It's just a step in the right direct and something we as fans thought we'd never hear again... Sure, take the note out and you have nothing more than a post 2017 JBJ vocal... But it's the little elements that make the moment...

At the very start of this tour, 8 months ago, I thought I'd never hear songs like BOR / These Days / Always live ever again.... By the end of the SA tour, I was actually extremely satisfied... Although far from perfect, they still had elements of enjoyment, especially BOR... What was even more thrilling was to see Jon spark back to life because of it...

Now, Jon is talking about doing songs like Blaze Of Glory, which again falls into the above...

Today we hear Jon hit a note that he hasn't done in who knows how long... That note was definitely up there...

Look, I live in a reality and know Jon will never sing like he did in the 80's and 90's. Heck, Jon might never sing again like he did in 2013 but what I'm seeing is a positive trend...

Jon left SA strong and if he could come back in even stronger, that would be amazing... For me, it's not just the voice... In some ways its the confidence because that brings the passion... The highlight of These Days and Saturday Night in Sao Paulo were the Ohhhhhs... And Jon becoming one with the Audience... That's Jon Bon Jovi !!!!

This is the perfect glass half empty / half full scenario... You pick your path.

I picked mine and like I said, today is a victory...

Perfectly put.

I'm not expecting Jon to sound like he did in 80s and 90s now. No way. What am I glad about, is how JBJ has addressed his vocal problems in the past year or so and has now put a video up of him hitting a VERY high note.

Definitely not expecting him to sound fantastic on every song. You can see his tone and pitch is off BUT, I'm certainly more optimistic than I was this time last year about hearing live performances.

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bwehehehe · #33 12-10-2017, 11:58 AM

While I highly commend the improvement (his vocals nowadays are generally mediocre but highly inconsistent; for some reason BOR somehow ends up being vocally better than Captain Crash or god forbid BWC), his manner of hitting that note isn't sustainable. He was pretty much screaming his way through that one.

Good thing that he's somehow managed to control it though (he was on the edge on the last couple seconds or so).

BJFan99 · #34 12-10-2017, 07:34 PM

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Originally Posted by liljovi93

Perfectly put.

I'm not expecting Jon to sound like he did in 80s and 90s now. No way. What am I glad about, is how JBJ has addressed his vocal problems in the past year or so and has now put a video up of him hitting a VERY high note.

Definitely not expecting him to sound fantastic on every song. You can see his tone and pitch is off BUT, I'm certainly more optimistic than I was this time last year about hearing live performances.

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You just managed to display my thoughts perfectly. I agree with you 100%.

bonjovi90 · #35 12-10-2017, 07:43 PM

Maybe it's a bit naive, but I kind of expect a singer to hit the notes of a song he/she has chosen to perform live.

However, it's quite amusing to see him go for a challenging note without falling flat on his face and some people are already dreaming that everything will be golden in the future again

Rdkopper · #36 12-10-2017, 07:51 PM

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Originally Posted by bonjovi90

and some people are already dreaming that everything will be golden in the future again

I don't get that impression at all... I think most are excited about the positive trend but know he's got a long way to go...

Jon's been note dodging and lowing keys so to see him attempt original key is very cool... it was far from perfect but it's just a classic case of just never giving up...

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Tom_K · #37 12-10-2017, 09:16 PM

The death grip is still there. He is not relaxed singing it. Not sure what everyone is raving about. That singing is flat. The bar has really been lowered, if that is considered good singing.

How would you rate someone on the X factor or similar show, if they sang like that?

Also did you notice the camera angles switch in the middle? Is it actually two takes put together?

Gregsynthbootlegs · #38 12-11-2017, 02:59 AM

The high note Jon hits isn't a C5 - it's a Bb4.

That being said - he still has a long long way to go before he can be a good singer again (which probably won't happen).

Alphavictim · #39 12-11-2017, 03:38 AM

Yeah I was gonna say, isn't the wo-AH from Prayer a C5?

Gadden · #40 12-11-2017, 09:14 AM

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Originally Posted by KSantaFe

I actually do think there's a hint of autotune there... is it just me? Regardless, it's nice to hear Jon hit a relatively high note for a change, and credit to him for putting himself out there. He was obviously very aware of his vocal issues and seems to be trying to address them to some degree. I will be very excited for a 2018 tour if he can improve his breathing and timing - that's my biggest issue with his vocals since the BWC tour.

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Something has been done to the recording at least.

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