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Old 11-25-2010, 09:07 AM
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http://www.jbjsoulkitchen.org/

Before anyone does the dishes, someone has to have the idea, find the funding and get the project off the ground. I have no idea how hands-on JBJ is, but at the very least it's clear that he's willing to use his celebrity to make projects like this happen. Yes, he gets some good press out of the deal. But the community wins, too. Read the manifesto on that web site, and then tell me how all this is a bad thing.
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Old 11-25-2010, 01:41 PM
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it's always the same story when it comes to charity it's taboo ..It's like it says step away it's not acceptable to make any remark
I think charity exists everywhere but I am doubtful on the motto < it cannot be bad> ...
I don't think it's bad per se but the system is very debatable though I think charity is used by celebrities including JON BON JOVI to work on their image mainly ... I don't have a brain freeze because Jon gets in the picture ... it cannot be wrong to have a free meal in a restaurant true but the advertising on tv serve nothing in that case except JBJ .... Are really the homeless (or those who cannot go to a restaurant) listening to ellen going to take a train to visit JBJ and family in red bank now ? the advertising serves what ? we talk about ppl who cannot afford a meal here (or maybe not ... the price not tagged means what then ) ....
and I think saying Jon is there helping the homeless is misleading info ...


I wonder if the fans will come and pretend they don't have the cash to pay to help in the kitchen now ... you never know to who you could bump into .. who is cynical then ... me ? yes but also those who will go there drive by to have a look .. visiting poverty up close to try to check on JBJ ......because it's gonna happen now


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Old 11-25-2010, 02:22 PM
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Mirielle, we're going to have to agree to disagree on this. I'm generally a cynic and I'm rarely Jon's biggest defender, but I think you've raised cynicism to an art form when it comes to JBJ. This interview will probably add fuel to your argument, yet I see something completely different. About half way through, Jon talks about using celebrity on behalf of charity. He's very honest about it and explains why it works. If certain fans take his involvement in a charity and turn it into an attempt to meet him, why does that make what HE's done wrong? Isn't it the motivation of those fans that has gone off the tracks?

Anyway, here's the link to the interview that Brian Williams (of NBC) did with Jon before The Circle came out. Yes, he talks about the bubble bursting, etc., but he also talks in a lot more detail about some of the projects he's involved in.

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/21134540...97374#33797374

And now - off to mom's. Happy Thanksgiving to those celebrating today!
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Old 11-25-2010, 03:15 PM
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Oops! My bad. I forgot about the insiders that know better that any other fan how things really are, around Jon, the record company, the FC, the promoter, the management team, the crew... Next time no comment.
I'm far from an insider but I do live, pay taxes, vote in Monmouth County so I do know what goes on in the community. You and I have differences of opinion why does that translate to you can't post what you feel.

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Old 11-25-2010, 03:56 PM
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Guys, you can be a fan and still see through the B.S. You can "love" Jon and know that he is not appearing at the sink at the Food Bank restaurant more than once or twice a year. Sure he deserves credit for establishing and supporting such an effort. I am certain his family helps out from time to time. Remember, if he says that HE is there washing dishes, more people will show....... Of course, not the homeless people-- the people who can pay for their dinners.
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Old 11-25-2010, 07:57 PM
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Some of the cynicism around here is extreme and it's hard to take those kind of comments seriously. Middle ground makes the most sense. Jon is neither God nor the devil incarnate.
This. Couldn't have said it any better.
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Old 11-25-2010, 08:06 PM
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Now I don't know much about Ellen DeGeneres, but I'd suggest that's unlikely...
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Old 11-25-2010, 09:44 PM
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it's always the same story when it comes to charity it's taboo ..It's like it says step away it's not acceptable to make any remark
I think charity exists everywhere but I am doubtful on the motto < it cannot be bad> ...
I don't think it's bad per se but the system is very debatable though I think charity is used by celebrities including JON BON JOVI to work on their image mainly ... I don't have a brain freeze because Jon gets in the picture ... it cannot be wrong to have a free meal in a restaurant true but the advertising on tv serve nothing in that case except JBJ .... Are really the homeless (or those who cannot go to a restaurant) listening to ellen going to take a train to visit JBJ and family in red bank now ? the advertising serves what ? we talk about ppl who cannot afford a meal here (or maybe not ... the price not tagged means what then ) ....
and I think saying Jon is there helping the homeless is misleading info ...


I wonder if the fans will come and pretend they don't have the cash to pay to help in the kitchen now ... you never know to who you could bump into .. who is cynical then ... me ? yes but also those who will go there drive by to have a look .. visiting poverty up close to try to check on JBJ ......because it's gonna happen now


Happy Thanksgiving everybody celebrating
I don't think it's taboo to say anything, but I think it's naive to think that you can just say it's all a lie, it's just propaganda and not expect any critisism for it in return.
How does him talking aboutit on tv not help the cause as much as it makes him "look good"?? While he obviously can't be at many of these restaurant nights, I don't find it particularly hard to believe his family is there at varoius times lending a hand.

As for 'fans" that choose to make a reservation and go there just in hope of seeing or meeting Jon, or now choose to volunteer at that food bank or soup kitchen, that can only help that organization and in turn that community and as long as they make their donations, do the work or pay for the meal, I guess whatever personally motivates them to do that is their own business. I mean corporations want Jon to use, wear,promote or perform in return for their corporate dollars, so if an individual has "meeting Jon" or getting an autograph, or see him doing dishes on their bucket list and that's what motivates them to be charitable, well it beats them not being charitable at all.

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Old 11-25-2010, 10:05 PM
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Mirielle, we're going to have to agree to disagree on this. I'm generally a cynic and I'm rarely Jon's biggest defender, but I think you've raised cynicism to an art form when it comes to JBJ. This interview will probably add fuel to your argument, yet I see something completely different. About half way through, Jon talks about using celebrity on behalf of charity. He's very honest about it and explains why it works. If certain fans take his involvement in a charity and turn it into an attempt to meet him, why does that make what HE's done wrong? Isn't it the motivation of those fans that has gone off the tracks?

Anyway, here's the link to the interview that Brian Williams (of NBC) did with Jon before The Circle came out. Yes, he talks about the bubble bursting, etc., but he also talks in a lot more detail about some of the projects he's involved in.

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/21134540...97374#33797374

And now - off to mom's. Happy Thanksgiving to those celebrating today!
I'm with you on this one Terri and thanks for the link I hadn't seen this interview.
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Old 11-25-2010, 10:08 PM
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Some of the cynicism around here is extreme and it's hard to take those kind of comments seriously. Middle ground makes the most sense. Jon is neither God nor the devil incarnate.
I gotta agree with Becky here (and others). Somehow I can't see that lending a helping hand is a bad thing. Jon's celebrity can be used for all sorts of things (as can any notoriety) but he is choosing to use it for good things - helping people less fortunate than he is. Will he get some benefits from it - sure. He will get news coverage which keeps his name in the press and he probably gets tax breaks.

But the main recipients are the people less fortunate - should we begrudge Jon his interviews and tax breaks? <sheesh>
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