time to fight back against the negative posts in this forum, crush and bounce are mind blowing albums, i cant understand why a lot of people bash them, i mean come on at least they havent sold out, there sticking to there roots and fans should still stick by them no matter if they think the newer stuffs crap, you should respect your artists for what theyve done, and there still doing tours which is amazing, you bashers should think of these points and stay loyal to this band.