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The only reason why i'm responding with this one is so you don't confuse the people.
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You do that each time you don't post Rdkopper. Now you just confused people more, Again!
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Music has always been an evolution. No one creates anything. It's a movement.
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Wow! Deep. I couldn't agree more. Yet it's beyond me why exactly you'd make this statement.
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First double check your numbers. I'm talking billboard mainstreem. Not billboard rock. Quiet Riot, Rat, Motley had emerging popularity around '84.
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Check my numbers? I am talking about Billboard MAINSTREAM (aka Billboard 200, the ranking of the top selling albums). And look them up yourself, moron! Unlike you, I state facts. Those are facts. I won't do the work for you and paste links. You are lucky enough I am teaching you some stuff here.
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They weren't classified as hairmetal bands until later on. Hair metal was termed because of MTV. Those bands were getting radio play but hardly any MTV play. With the exception of Smoking in the boys room.
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And who the hell gives a shit what they were termed? Again, I am saying their popularity was raising and they were becoming 'uncool' with traditional metal audiences. Do I really need to repeat it a million times? Sickening.
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'84 '85. Was the start of it but it wasn't mainstreem yet. Their success was starting off in California and drifting to the rest of the states. Just becasue a few rock acts had some modest hits, doesn't mean hair metal was here.
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Top 10 records is not MODEST hits! But you lived through that and you know it all better. Yes, same old ****in' story. Metal Health was the first ever Heavy Metal album to debut at Number 1 in the Billboard 200 and you start talking crap about 'modest hits'.
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Once MTV started playing the muisc in 86 and 87, hair metal was being termed and it was cool
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Again, completely pointless remark. I thought we are discussing this in the first place because it wasn't cool to the traditional audience of Judas Priest. And who cares what it was termed? It's you who keeps on labelling this music as soft metal or hair metal. I just said certain Bon Jovi songs were not necessarily compatible with Judas Priest audiences but you start all this crap about cool and not cool and about soft and hair and metal. Dude, I am actually sick on wasting time on you. I don't mean to be offensive, and people know I try my best to be objective and present facts whenever I participate in a discussion. But you are just plain stupid. You question facts and ask me to check numbers when it's you who has no clue what he talks about, despite 'living' through it. Let's leave it at that. Of course, you will type some more non-sense so that you feel like you had your last word and 'won' the debate. When all you did is make a fool of yourself. Again! How many more times Rdkopper? At least it's entertaining to people reading this.