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Old 10-18-2005, 11:53 PM
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Keep The Faith is a classic album, no doubt, but I think a problem with it is, (as others have said) although traks like Fear, I Want You, Blame It......... and Little Bit of Soul are all fantastic they don't quite match the quality of the first seven track which are all absolute classics. Fear is a great rock tune but it's not as good as the rock tunes before it. I Want You is a great ballad but it ain't nowhere near as good as Bed of Roses.
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Try to name a Bon Jovi album where the last 6 or 7 tracks are better than the first 6 or 7. It just doesn't happen. Also compare the last 7 tracks on KTF to the stuff released after 2000 and ask yourself which is better, but then of course Bon Jovi are better than ever now and Bounce is a killer rock album. In my opinion the last 7 tracks on KTF blow away nearly all post 2000 recordings.
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Try to name a Bon Jovi album where the last 6 or 7 tracks are better than the first 6 or 7.
Jersey probably comes damn close ... so does HAND come to that
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Try to name a Bon Jovi album where the last 6 or 7 tracks are better than the first 6 or 7. It just doesn't happen.
The second half of Slippery. The second half of New Jersey. The Second half of Keep The Faith. The second half of Crush (especially). The second half of Bounce. I'd say it happens alot.

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Also compare the last 7 tracks on KTF to the stuff released after 2000 and ask yourself which is better, but then of course Bon Jovi are better than ever now and Bounce is a killer rock album. In my opinion the last 7 tracks on KTF blow away nearly all post 2000 recordings.
Well it's not the last seven tracks, it's more about the last 5 and no, Bounce is nowhere near as good Keep The Faith, but I could name plenty of songs post 2000, even songs from Bounce that are equal, if not better then songs like "Woman In Love", "I Want You" and "Blame It on The Love of Rock and Roll." And yeah, not one of the final 5 songs on KTF (with the exception of "Little Bit of Soul") can match anything on Have a Nice Day, in my opinion of course.


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The second half of Slippery. The second half of New Jersey. The Second half of Keep The Faith. The second half of Crush (especially). The second half of Bounce. I'd say it happens alot.
Dude ... what are you smoking? The first half of Slippery has Prayer, Wanted and Bad Name, not to mention Let It Rock, and to a slightly lesser extent Social Disease; and you're saying the second half is better? And I disagree with all of the others as well. Though as I said before, Jersey probably comes closest
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Keep The Faith is a classic album, no doubt, but I think a problem with it is, (as others have said) although traks like Fear, I Want You, Blame It......... and Little Bit of Soul are all fantastic they don't quite match the quality of the first seven track which are all absolute classics. Fear is a great rock tune but it's not as good as the rock tunes before it. I Want You is a great ballad but it ain't nowhere near as good as Bed of Roses.
So here you're saying the second half of KTF is nowhere near as good as the first half. Ok fair point it isn't.

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Try to name a Bon Jovi album where the last 6 or 7 tracks are better than the first 6 or 7. It just doesn't happen.
The second half of Slippery. The second half of New Jersey. The Second half of Keep The Faith. The second half of Crush (especially). The second half of Bounce. I'd say it happens alot.
But then here you're saying that the second half of KTF is better that the first half. Total contradiction! I'm not trying to be like Seb here with ya buddy but you gotta think before you write stuff like this. Oh and the second part of Crush has obvious classics like Mystery Train, Save The World, She's a Mystery and I Got the Girl. But then difference in opinion is what makes life interesting.
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Oh sorry, sorry, sorry! I thought you asked what albums are there where the first six songs are better then the second 6. My mistake. Those ones I listed are the ones I feel have a better first half to the second.

These Days and Have a Nice Day are perfectly solid throughout, neither half is superior. Actually, I can't name one Bon Jovi / Jon Bon Jovi album that has a superior second half. The only Bon Jovi related album I can think of where the second half is better then the first is Undiscovered Soul.


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Oh sorry, sorry, sorry! I thought you asked what albums are there where the first six songs are better then the second 6. My mistake. Those ones I listed are the ones I feel have a better first half to the second.

These Days and Have a Nice Day are perfectly solid throughout, neither half is superior. Actually, I can't name one Bon Jovi / Jon Bon Jovi album that has a superior second half. The only Bon Jovi related album I can think of where the second half is better then the first is Undiscovered Soul.


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I agree with you here. Kind of proves that they don't really build up the album as a whole but put the best songs first and the fillers second, with a few exceptions.

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