Bon Jovi: 'We Don't Need Success'

crashed · #21 12-31-2007, 01:08 PM

First, whatever Jon says in interviews I never take much notice of anyway. Like anyone with an interviewer suddenly in their face, they say whatever comes first to mind. It's not always genuinely what they mean or what they believe.

Bon Jovi don't need the success, but I do think they still crave it - and I think this band's biggest fear is becoming one of the also-rans. But, the problem with them thinking that they don't need to prove anything anymore is that it shows through in performances and the efforts they make - Jovi were always the underdogs who had to fight for every inch of respect - and that's what makes them such a killer band. To me, they're still not getting that respect so shouldn't stop fighting. I hope they haven't lost that passion.

(Don't)Lie_to_me · #22 12-31-2007, 03:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Kathleen

Wait a minute - do I hear an echo in here

Seems like some of us have been saying the same thing for quite a while now.

Of course - just to play devil's advocate - Jon can say he doesn't care about or need chart success. However both he and Richie were mightily pleased when Lost Highway came in at # 1.

Well, you would be

I just think they have genuine humility; they're modest (to a point) so they are sort of surprised and, although I hate the word, honoured to be Number 1.

Personally, they could tank (they kinda do in the UK anyway) and I wouldn't be at all bothered.

bjcrazycpa · #23 12-31-2007, 04:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Liza

So Deb you are saying they deiberately set out to ignore an international market?

Also, if you think that position on the chart after 6 months is good then clearly you aren't aware of how the industry works. It certainly doesnt mark the album a huge success.

I never said the record was a HUGE success (if you read my post I used the words "okay") but it's certainly not a failure in the US either (chart wise it's doing just as well as HAND and HAND had a lot more promotion). And no I don't think they intended to ignore the international market but I don't think they ever intended to heavily market this record anywhere, even in the US, since, initially, there was no tour planned.

And since I'm so stupid on "how the industry works" feel free to educate me.

deb

Supersonic · #24 12-31-2007, 08:17 PM

Aloha !

If Jon didn't "need" the success he wouldn't have included another It's My Life on each album they've released since It's My Life.

Salaam Aleikum,
Sebastiaan

Becky · #25 12-31-2007, 08:31 PM

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Originally Posted by rainsong

It sounds like once again some online "news" source has taken some comments out of their complete context and stuck them together.

No kidding. I'm trying to find the part where Jon said, "We don't need success." Either I'm blind, or that quote isn't in the article. I don't see any actual quote worthy of getting worked up over.

Neurotica33 · #26 12-31-2007, 08:31 PM

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Originally Posted by TheseDays2005

succes is very relative in this case. If Bon Jovi releases another country album it will still sell millions without even a single released. The name Bon Jovi is a brand at itself and will sell itself.

That will not go on indefinately. The album sales are slowly droping with each release. If an album eventually falls beneath the 1 million mark worldwide, it could be curtains!

Oh, and here's the full article this was taken from!

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/arts/main...bonjovi130.xml

Neurotica33 · #27 12-31-2007, 08:33 PM

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Originally Posted by *ºÇåptäîn¤Çrä§hº*

What if they longed to get back in the studio in order to capitalise off the success of Who Says You Can't Go Home? Why do those things have to be contradictory? And why is it so bad? There's other artists that literally capitalise off everything that is possible.

I still think the outcome is still very much Bon Jovi. Actually, I believe if they had never mentioned the country influence, a lot of people would not give this album the outsider spot that it seems to get because the word "country" was mentioned. In most parts it is as much a common post-2000 Bon Jovi record as all the others.

Plus, on a sidenote, if Jon would use the same words in every interview to describe the project, all you lot would say he's bored and lacks passion.

I believe, it's been around 16 countries. And in almost none of them there were any tickets that could be tied to the release or the other way around.

So almost 20 years after the release of New Jersey they've reached the number one spot in the US again, with some fiddling added. Well done, then!
And what does the industry know, or care for that matter?
And brave? You make that sound as if they have to prove themselves to their own fans with every single word they say. They don't.

Something new? New as in "never before seen on this planet" it seems. Then you're right.
The album might not be a huge success, but it's not the huge failure either. "Huge success" is not the equivalent for "true experimentation". Just because you think adding a steel guitar is not experimentative doesn't make Jon's statement that they were experimenting a little bit with country styles wrong or contradictory.

Oh, it just crossed my mind reading your visibly annoyed comments.

It was nowhere near 16 Countries - maybe 6!

rainsong · #28 12-31-2007, 10:08 PM

It debuted at #1 in eight countries actually, plus the European Top 100 so whatever countries that covers as well, I don't know how many countries it eventually went to number 1 in.

pipinfort · #29 01-01-2008, 02:06 PM

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Originally Posted by bjcrazycpa

And no I don't think they intended to ignore the international market but I don't think they ever intended to heavily market this record anywhere, even in the US, since, initially, there was no tour planned.

deb

thats correct, LH was meant to be a bit of a filler/experiment album and no tour was planned, the next tour was to promote the GH2 album planned for the spring .since LH took off in such a big way, one off promotional gigs such as the O2 became a full blown tour.

Neurotica33 · #30 01-01-2008, 05:15 PM

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Originally Posted by pipinfort

thats correct, LH was meant to be a bit of a filler/experiment album and no tour was planned, the next tour was to promote the GH2 album planned for the spring .since LH took off in such a big way, one off promotional gigs such as the O2 became a full blown tour.

I think the fact it went to Number 1 in America has totally exaggerated the success of the album. If it had only got to number 2 with the same numbers sold, the so called success of the album would not have been so over-hyped.

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