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View Poll Results: Do you think now that Bounce is better album then you thought back then?
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Old 11-28-2016, 04:33 PM
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It would be a classic if the best from the album had been mixed with the best of the bonus tracks.

Like all of the post-2000 efforts, Bounce is incredibly uneven. Although I like more songs (5) from this album than any other post-2000 apart from This House. Some of the songs are awesome, and some of them are just embarrassing.

The rockers on Bounce are miles better than anything on HAND, which many cite as rock as a post-2000 Bon Jovi album can be.
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Old 11-28-2016, 04:34 PM
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You must be kidding!!!! Those drums sound like they're going to beat you up, the guitars, strings...I recommend you listen again on a decent stereo.
All Shank's stuff sounds like toy instruments and waaaay too much reverb and delay
While I'm one of the few who actually likes Shanks productions I have to agree. Bounce is the last studio album where the band actually sounds like a band. The drums sounds natural, the overall feel isn't so overly compressed that all post HAND-album sounds.
Also it's the last one where the vocal sounds natural. On Have a Nice Day they started experiment with all the studio tricks that were available but on Bounce you still could hear the old Jon voice for some brief moments.
GREAT album.
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Will never forget the first time I put on Bounce and Undivided started banging out through my speakers. Let's just say I was pretty floored. To this day it's one of the best songs ever done by this band.


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Will never forget the first time I put on Bounce and Undivided started banging out through my speakers. Let's just say I was pretty floored. To this day it's one of the best songs ever done by this band.
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Same here, few songs that I like, and few that I disliked back then, and even more today. I don't listen to this record, but Everyday and maybe one or two other tracks do occasionally pop up on a playlist and I don't consciously skip them.

It's got a negative aura around it mostly because a good part of the record was influenced by the events of 9/11. I think they didn't let that aura influence them creatively as it did on These Days, which they also say is a dark record but delivered so much better.

I wish Bon Jovi had kept that attitude though, it seemed that on few of the songs they were not afraid to turn up the guitars and try to act a little "harder", and it was a good move away from pop found on Crush, but that's all disappeared since then and toned down for HAND and all albums that followed. No one's told Jon in the ensuing years that guitars are still very popular, even today.

It was a meh record, still a meh record.
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Old 11-28-2016, 10:17 PM
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I've always liked the record. It's a super darkehorse-ish album. You know those albums that were released during a weird or hard time for the band? Like, say, the Stones albums during the 80s? Or now, if Richie were to ever come back, "that one album without Richie"? That kind of stuff. That's a bit odd for the band. I always like those albums, because there's interesting stuff to discover on them.

The one thing that's NOT interesting about the record, though, are the guitar solos. Give Shanks' production all the crap you want, but Lost Highway and The Circle have much more intricate guitar work than Bounce. It's got a ton of layers, but it rarely ever ammounts to anything interesting in terms of interplay. But you know which song does? Misunderstood. BRILLIANT track. Not guitar hero-style guitar stuff, but great textures. Awesome vocal hook. Nice lyrics as well. So yeah, great song.

Undivided is definitely the best LIVE track from here and an all-around awesome song. Strong vocals by Jon as well. Bounce - I love the main riff. The rest is by the numbers, but they're super shiny numbers. Captivating drive.

Everyday is awesome in terms of the instrumental, but the chorus just never gets to 100% in terms of vocal melody. I actually like Joey, and Right Side Of Wrong has grown on me. Open All Night needs better production, otherwise it's a nice little ballad. Hook Me Up is okay, more works due to its attitude than to the actual songwriting. Postcards From The Wasteland is easily the best B-side, could have been even better with proper production.

You Had Me From Hello has a nice Sambora-riff, that's it pretty much. AALY is by numbers, and they're a little stale - it's no TYFLM, but it'll do. Either No Regrets or Another Reason To Believe was also pretty nice - I always forget which was the better one of the two.

The rest I don't really care about. That's just The Distance and its twin, anyway, right? Plus a couple of B-sides. Well, We Can Dance is nice enough, even if it's rather low-key.

Whoever said that you can tell that the album resulted from different writing sessions with very different mindsets is right about that, though - it certainly sounds like it. But then again, that's part of what makes it so intriguing.
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I've always liked the record. It's a super darkehorse-ish album. You know those albums that were released during a weird or hard time for the band? Like, say, the Stones albums during the 80s? Or now, if Richie were to ever come back, "that one album without Richie"? That kind of stuff. That's a bit odd for the band. I always like those albums, because there's interesting stuff to discover on them.

The one thing that's NOT interesting about the record, though, are the guitar solos. Give Shanks' production all the crap you want, but Lost Highway and The Circle have much more intricate guitar work than Bounce. It's got a ton of layers, but it rarely ever ammounts to anything interesting in terms of interplay. But you know which song does? Misunderstood. BRILLIANT track. Not guitar hero-style guitar stuff, but great textures. Awesome vocal hook. Nice lyrics as well. So yeah, great song.

Undivided is definitely the best LIVE track from here and an all-around awesome song. Strong vocals by Jon as well. Bounce - I love the main riff. The rest is by the numbers, but they're super shiny numbers. Captivating drive.

Everyday is awesome in terms of the instrumental, but the chorus just never gets to 100% in terms of vocal melody. I actually like Joey, and Right Side Of Wrong has grown on me. Open All Night needs better production, otherwise it's a nice little ballad. Hook Me Up is okay, more works due to its attitude than to the actual songwriting. Postcards From The Wasteland is easily the best B-side, could have been even better with proper production.

You Had Me From Hello has a nice Sambora-riff, that's it pretty much. AALY is by numbers, and they're a little stale - it's no TYFLM, but it'll do. Either No Regrets or Another Reason To Believe was also pretty nice - I always forget which was the better one of the two.

The rest I don't really care about. That's just The Distance and its twin, anyway, right? Plus a couple of B-sides. Well, We Can Dance is nice enough, even if it's rather low-key.

Whoever said that you can tell that the album resulted from different writing sessions with very different mindsets is right about that, though - it certainly sounds like it. But then again, that's part of what makes it so intriguing.
I don't even have to bother making my own review, this is dead on what I feel hah.
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While I like the song and think it holds up, does anyone else have ossues with: "That was my sister lost in the CRUSH."

I always found it to be an odd choice. There is no rhyming scheme that justifies the choice of a word that so happens to be the title of their previous album. Why not, "fall," or another word that was used more commonly to describe the event?
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While I like the song and think it holds up, does anyone else have issues with: "That was my sister lost in the CRUSH."

I always found it to be an odd choice. There is no rhyming scheme that justifies the choice of a word that so happens to be the title of their previous album. Why not, "fall," or another word that was used more commonly to describe the event?
The crush is usually in September in wine country. And yes - it it called exactly that. The Crush describes grapes being crushed for wine. Perhaps Jon found a double meaning since those buildings did indeed crush everything around them when they fell. I guess that phrase never bothered me since it so eloquently described what had happened.
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I don't even have to bother making my own review, this is dead on what I feel hah.


I agree ALMOST 100%. I do like and rate the guitar work, it mixes great with the talk box ('over-used'? Naaah) and strings. Solos are pretty bad though...shame; imagine Undivided, Everyday, Bounce and Hook me up with great Sambora solos...Distance too


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