Bounce! (poll)

Well though this wasn't directed to me I'd like to says that there's a similarity in the riff for sure, but I think this riff was there before. Weezer might have stolen it from this one:


Anyway the two songs transfer some really different basic moods.
I can't really see how Bon Jovi should have ripped it off from them.

'Undivided'...amazing song.

I agree, both songs have a riff that are pretty much the same for about half of it, but they're not actually the same riff. And that hardly qualifies the whole song as being a "shameless rip off"

Undivided goes through!

Actually Last Cigarette and Novacaine are the one's that sound similar as the choruses and verses use octaves which are similar in key. Meanwhile Story Of My Life is in Drop D and has a bigger fuller sound to it. HAND has too much bubble gum pop rock for my taste. All the tracks left off of it were the real rock songs that most fans were looking for(Nothing, Dirty Little Secret, and Unbreakable). Bounce is the better of all the post-2000 albums because one, the band hadn't discovered they were terrible at making country music, second they enlisted with a Pop/Country producer(Shanks) and thirdly because Bounce rocks harder than any of the albums and they weren't as commercially minded(example diving into the country market)

I gotta disagree here. Last Cigarette, Novocaine and Story of my life can all be sung over each other, almost. To me, Unbreakable is the very definition of bubble gum pop, considering that rhyming scheme. I dno if i'd say Bounce was commercially minded. They ran out of the gate with Everyday, a song that had every intent of being as poppy as possible. It tries to be all things to everyone, nearly every song off the album is remiscent of another popular song. Just my two cents. You've got the Billy Joel type songs, Creed-ish down tuned songs, It's my life clones. I dno. I think it's a good album, it just tried way too hard to be too many things.

"Story of My Life" ain't and have never been in Drop-d It's standard tuning.

There's DEFINETELY a guitar in there that is lower than standard. My guess is a baritone guitar.

True true. It's not exactly breaking new ground as the most original riff ever, so I really doubt it was an intentional swiping. The songs don't sound anything alike, with the exception of the similar guitar part.

Richie's rhythm guitar is in Drop D. The only way for me to defend this fact is by mentioning I study music theory and giving you an insider's view on how that's done. If you are unsure of the tuning a band uses in the song you wish to tab, I suggest listening to the entire riff. You can narrow down your tuning possibilities if open strings that are played during a series of chords or if a lead player plays some notes that pull-off to an open string.

Occasoinally the chords used by a band introduce slight dissonance, suspended intervals, or major/minor thirds/sixths. For example, when playing a maj7 chord, you play the tonic (1st) and the leading note (7th) at the same time, which sounds unstable. Chords with added 2nds and 4ths will sound colorful, as will the thirds and sixths in a chord or interval. The best way to develop your ear to tab harder chords is to play songs that you know or have music for and use these songs to learn what certain intervals sound like. When your ear becomes trained to two note intervals, it makes tabbing a chord sequence much easier, especially for jazz or classically-influenced chord phrasing. I also found a pitch interval trainer link on one of the threads on this site. For beginners, I suggest playing with the interval trainer first:

http://www.musictheory.net/trainers/html/id84_en.h tml

Then try the audio-first quizzing version:

http://www.musictheory.net/trainers/html/id90_en.h tml

As for getting effects to sound like they do in the recording, this takes some patience. You need to first have a metronome or a watch to figure out the beats per minute (bpm) speed of the piece. If using a watch, just count beats by tapping your foot to the bass/drums/rhythm guitar and counting each tap for a minute (or a half minute if applicable). Usually an effect such as a tremelo or flanger will have a regeneration rate that is something like an exact multiple or 1/2 of the bpm in order to not sound out of place.