Box Set Revisited

Captain_jovi · #**111** 08-13-2018, 09:24 PM

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Originally Posted by bonjovi90

This wasn't meant as an attack towards Obie. But you gotta admit that the way we're taking all that stuff apart (in terms of analyzing every detail) is probably far above what they thought about it when putting the release information together.

It's not about the hey hey's, but the whole chord structure, melody, feel is why I put it there, at least originally.
Though we'll probably never know for sure.

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I didn't take yours as an insult, more so he's an easy dog to kick around here. I think he'd have done a bang up job producing a full album. I could make a living...is perfectly produced and I think he's got the fan's best interest at heart as far as what's out there.

I would LOVE an indepth interview with Obie about some of these songs.

steel_horse75 · #**112** 08-13-2018, 10:07 PM

Wasn’t diamond ring intended for the New Jersey double album then dropped when it was reduced to a single album?..

bonjovi90 · #**113** 08-13-2018, 10:27 PM

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Originally Posted by steel_horse75

Wasn’t diamond ring intended for the New Jersey double album then dropped when it was reduced to a single album?..

It was written in 1988, but in my memory Jon said that he wasn't completely satisfied with how the song had turned out (both for NJ and KTF) and it wasn't until they went back to a pretty basic, laid-back arrangement on TD that he liked it enough to let it go.

Rdkopper · #**114** 08-13-2018, 11:08 PM

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Originally Posted by bonjovi90

It was written in 1988, but in my memory Jon said that he wasn't completely satisfied with how the song had turned out (both for NJ and KTF) and it wasn't until they went back to a pretty basic, laid-back arrangement on TD that he liked it enough to let it go.

Perfect example... Diamond Ring is categorized under 1995 in my collection but it could also go under 1988... So I guess it all depends on what someone uses to categorize something... The year it was written? The year Jon sang it?

I met Obie in Philly this past tour. Super nice guy. He's probably pushing at least 70. He jokingly (but seriously) said that he needs to train someone on the vault collection because he's not going to be around forever... He said they were transferring over everything now (I believe to digital)...

He's super into it. I told him we need Hammersmith '90 and a Crush/Sex Sells double album... he loved both ideas... his hands are tied. He's just the gate keeper but I'm sure could have an influence..

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steel_horse75 · #**115** 08-13-2018, 11:13 PM

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Originally Posted by bonjovi90

It was written in 1988, but in my memory Jon said that he wasn't completely satisfied with how the song had turned out (both for NJ and KTF) and it wasn't until they went back to a pretty basic, laid-back arrangement on TD that he liked it enough to let it go.

Jbj had 3 attempts to re-write it and I still don’t like that song!

bonjovi90 · #**116** 08-14-2018, 01:11 AM

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Originally Posted by steel_horse75

Jbj had 3 attempts to re-write it and I still don’t like that song!

Well that's your problem then, I love both versions

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YOVANAfromPeru · #**117** 08-14-2018, 04:29 AM

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Originally Posted by Rdkopper

I'm getting lazy in my old age (that's twice now)...

I'm feeling 60 since I was 8
>_< jajaja

Diamond Ring was out until JBJ thought it was “the perfect version of that song.”

steel_horse75 · #**118** 08-14-2018, 08:19 AM

I listened to disc 3 & 4 yesterday for the first time in years . Even used my CD player and that’s probably the first time they’ve been played on that format since I got it in 04. (Check out my insta iam_emmo to see my vinyl stuff if you’re bored!)). Some songs sound really good on CD rather than the compressed mp3 format.
I probably just stuck these on iPod as soon as I got it and have watched the dvd once.

I used to work for Universal Music and when this box set came out I managed to get 3 of these sets for nothing and gave 2 of the 3 to my dad and sister for Xmas.

I agree that some of these songs could of been intended for an album that could’ve sat between Faith and These Days.
Some good stuff here, some stuff that just falls short of Bon Jovi quality back then and some experiments that you can see why they were never used.

DavetheGodofKeys · #**119** 08-14-2018, 11:58 AM

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Originally Posted by YOVANAfromPeru

I don't know guys, to me JBJ's voice in You Can Sleep While I Dream doesn't sound 1994, it's sounds more kinda like Two Story Town Webcast 2000 lol (btw same co-writers plus Richie)

no doubt this song is very pretty -_- and similar to Saturday Night (Hey’s, chord, etc.), maybe it was the Saturday Night "in the moment" (of course not too awesome like Saturday Night!!!!)

I'm with you on this one... his voice in You Can Sleep While I Dream sounds like it's 2000. It sounds too mature for it to be 1994. Also, the high notes in the chorus sound just a bit too nasal for me to believe it was 1994...

DavetheGodofKeys · #**120** 08-14-2018, 12:01 PM

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Originally Posted by BJFan99

The box set was the first BJ release I got straight to myself (and no longer had to "borrow" my dad's records).

Radio, I Get A Rush and the Always demo have always been my favorites off it. Goddammit, Jon's vocals used to be amazing...

https://youtu.be/RRD3xidAhM4

Just listen to that key change - if you don't get chills, I'll buy you a beer.

Those high notes at the end of the Always demo are crazy... Its just incredible to me how he would go all out even in demos...

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