Boxset not even confirmed according to Richie :(

It's true, I hadn't thought of that. Still, if I were them, I guess I'd rather pay the company and lose some money but be able to be "free" than stay there and be told what to do every single minute of my life.

Have you seen any promotion from the record company for the last albums? I didn't. The costs for promotion are for sure no reason for BJ to stay. They make their promotion by themselves anyway, the record company doesn't do anything exept of one or two TV commercials one day before the album comes out in one or two TV channels. That's it.

And the record company doesn't have anything to do with the tours. I know this from Richie's solo-tour where the record company got to know from a friend of mine that Richie makes a concert in Stuttgart. The record company had no idea.

Actually I pretty much do. They wouldn't sign to an indie, they'd set up their own label. I know guys my own age who release their own albums on their own label which you can pick up in every hmv and virgin in the UK and suffice to say, they've got alot less fans and ALOT less money than Bon jovi.

touring costs money sellign out stadiums every second night makes alot more money. You pay people to sort it all out just in the same way as the label will do just now.

They've got the money, they've got the contacts and the rep, they've got the publishing and distribution channels worldwide.

They could do it themselves if they bought themselves out of their contract.

Well, I cannot count the number of talkshows they were on both in the US and internationally - all that is set up by the label. What about American XS - wasn't that a label deal? But more importantly, how do you think bands get airtime? Not because some DJ thinks it is a cool band and plays it. Airtime is divided between the acts signed to the major labels - the major label being the ones paying the radiostations to play their acts.

right, but you still have to pay the people in advance, plus you need GOOD people with excellent experience.

Your friends with their indie labels will never get the support a major label is able to provide. That is just the way it is. If you start out, you take any chance you get. When you are BJ, you are not willing to sleep in crappy tour bus and eat junk food.

Of course they would be technically able to. But they sure as heck won't go back to their lifestyle 20 years ago. They can make demands for their touring lifestyle no independent or their own label could ensure them.

They have the money to finance their tours if they wanted to. And they wouldn't have to sleep on a bus. Tours don't lose money, they make money, otherwise they wouldn't tour. Plus they could afford to record and publish records with their own lable and have better promotion than what Universal can offer if they were willing to put in some of their own money. If they believe the album would sell, it wouldn't be a bad investment.

Ice

exactly what Ice said.

My bro put the guys I'm talking about on tour up here last week and they slept on my floor which is pretty much how it starts out and I;m not denying for a minute that they can get anywhere near the support as label can give them btu Bon Jovi most certainly can.

It wouldn;t be a case of Jon and co actually dsoing anythign except paying the money for people to do it. they're input would be pretty much the same as it is just now cept they'd get the last say on releases.

I'm pretty sure that nobody outside the company/band knows but some information may have leaked out. Does anyone actually know how many records/sales/year Bon Jovi have left with this Universal contract anyway?

All we can do is wait and see. I really want something new to happen here and hope fuly they leave the record company so they can have more artistic freedom. But may be it is tii much for them to handle by them self, coz it take loads of work. But i rather wait for a good album rather then have bad one right now.

I'm with Ice on this one.

S.

Do we actally know about how much money it takes to buy off the company?I bet it`s a huge, very huge amount. And they have to find another company , it`s not that easy. And maybe, just maybe, the band is not even interested in having all the work they have to do when they want to leave the company....maybe they are satisfied with it, cause they have so many other things to do...