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Old 03-02-2005, 05:27 PM
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If Jon wants to combine a promo event with money instead of just promoting the album I don't want this to succeed. He should keep the 2 things apart from eachother. Trying to make money with everything he does so he can keep the Soul running makes the band just a tool to cash in. Automatic pilot and off we go. We'll play 2 hours and earn a lot. That's not the right way to promote an album I think.
You see, that's cool. I disagree though, but that's cool.
However what I didn't like was that you immediately had to assume negative things about a news item almost the minute it popped up. Now you're saying "IF Jon wants...", in your initial post you said something like "I bet he will...". It wouldn't be such a big deal, if you would not do it so very often. I can not change it, but I can and will voice my opinion about it.

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But your opinion isn't about my opinion.
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You just give your opinion about my opinion,
Err, what now?

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It's just another reply about me bashing the band. You don't really talk about my opinion, but you talk about the way I treat the band and all that, with the exception from above in which you explain why you disagree with me.
And it was just as I thought I understand that you are trying to tell me that this negativity is your opinion..

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So because I bash the band it's getting worn out?
Yes.

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That's saying spreading my opinion is getting worn out to me, because it's obvious that I'm giving my opinion about what this band does. Just because it's negative each time doesn't mean I should stop it.
Well, if your opinion about this band is something negative each time you open your mouth, then yes, I think you should stop it - at least on a Bon Jovi board. There's a difference between being critical and bashing every possible and impossible time.
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Old 03-02-2005, 05:46 PM
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You see, that's cool. I disagree though, but that's cool.
However what I didn't like was that you immediately had to assume negative things about a news item almost the minute it popped up. Now you're saying "IF Jon wants...", in your initial post you said something like "I bet he will...". It wouldn't be such a big deal, if you would not do it so very often. I can not change it, but I can and will voice my opinion about it.
So instead of just posting your opinion about the news your first reply is aimed at me because I assume a few things. Things who aren't really that weird considering Jon's thoughts of how to make more money out of things. I've posted something like that because I completely have lost my faith in one of the once biggest front men of the eighties and nineties.


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You just give your opinion about my opinion,
Err, what now?
You know very well what I mean. Rip things out of the context and my replies look silly but you do understand my point of view. But because I am so generous I will try to explain it again.

I post my opinion. You log in. The first thing you do is bash me for writing a negative post. Instead of first posting your opinion about the subject, you just start to post about how negative I am. You don't talk about the subject at all unless I ask you about your opinion but continue to discuss my point of view.

What other people do when quoting me is telling me their opinion and why they disagree with me. Something you rarely do when it comes to my posts. That's what's getting worn out, boring and old.

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And it was just as I thought I understand that you are trying to tell me that this negativity is your opinion..
Yes it is. But you talk about the negativity itself. And instead of asking why I am so negative, you just reply with basically the same each time without explaining any of your points. No talk about my opinion, just talk about my negativity and therefore no talk about the subject at all.

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So because I bash the band it's getting worn out?
Yes.
But posting each time how good a band is (like Obie O' Bliss does) isn't?

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That's saying spreading my opinion is getting worn out to me, because it's obvious that I'm giving my opinion about what this band does. Just because it's negative each time doesn't mean I should stop it.
Well, if your opinion about this band is something negative each time you open your mouth, then yes, I think you should stop it - at least on a Bon Jovi board. There's a difference between being critical and bashing every possible and impossible time.
This band isn't 2000-2005 only. I am a fan of the band Bon Jovi 1986-1998. I am critical and as soon as there's a show on the Bounce tour, or any upcoming tour, that was great I'll post that as well. Try to find my review of the Gelsenkirchen show (not that it's easy without a search function) and you'll find out that I was positive about a show that most people hated.

Most of the things Bon Jovi does since Crush aren't that great. Everything is getting less music orientated more money orientated.

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Old 03-02-2005, 07:14 PM
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So instead of just posting your opinion about the news your first reply is aimed at me because I assume a few things. Things who aren't really that weird considering Jon's thoughts of how to make more money out of things. I've posted something like that because I completely have lost my faith in one of the once biggest front men of the eighties and nineties.
When you re-read my initial post and use your brain, you will see that there's my opinion about the subject included.

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You know very well what I mean. Rip things out of the context and my replies look silly but you do understand my point of view. But because I am so generous I will try to explain it again.
I didn't rip anything out of context. The two sentences were very easy and clear. They referred both to me and both to how I responded to you.
They don't look silly, they are in this case.

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I post my opinion. You log in. The first thing you do is bash me for writing a negative post. Instead of first posting your opinion about the subject, you just start to post about how negative I am.
I didn't bash you. I rarely post "just" my opinion. I take aspects of other people's opinions that seem disputable to me and throw in the things I think are also relevant to it.
So my initial post would read: of course, they will cash in with a concert, it won't be for free. Might be that there is a Soul connection, so what?

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You don't talk about the subject at all unless I ask you about your opinion but continue to discuss my point of view.
I'm sorry that your point of view is so often the hook for me, but ain't that what you're aiming for?

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What other people do when quoting me is telling me their opinion and why they disagree with me. Something you rarely do when it comes to my posts. That's what's getting worn out, boring and old.
I'm sorry that you don't take my opinion as such and that you don't recognize the interjections in my posts.

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Yes it is. But you talk about the negativity itself. And instead of asking why I am so negative, you just reply with basically the same each time without explaining any of your points.
Why should I ask you this? You "explain" it a lot. It's not that I don't get why you feel this way. I don't get why it forces you to interpret every little thing so that it suits your preconceived opinion.

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But posting each time how good a band is (like Obie O' Bliss does) isn't?
Not exactly, no. I see what you mean and you know that I don't like the blind follower's as well, but yes, I think people on a BJ board will quite likely tend to be positive about that band. Isn't it natural?

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This band isn't 2000-2005 only. I am a fan of the band Bon Jovi 1986-1998.
No really? I didn't know that.

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I am critical and as soon as there's a show on the Bounce tour, or any upcoming tour, that was great I'll post that as well. Try to find my review of the Gelsenkirchen show (not that it's easy without a search function) and you'll find out that I was positive about a show that most people hated.
I begin to feel uncomfotable realizing that I was in the same venue with you. Joke!
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