krb, you're so predictable. Every time you reply in this section of the site, before I read your reply, I know it's going to be rude, downward, or..well..something that people aren't going to like. I guess we can really read you like a book! Now, it's obvious that you're going to reply to this message too..and if you don't, that's because I pointed out that you would, and you're going to try and prove me wrong.
For everyone else:
I've seen the guys live before, and they can do much better..ESPECIALLY JON. He really did seem tired and everything and it's kinda' sad...when you think about his daily routine.