Clarifying the whole 'Jon only sounds good due to studio trickery' subject.

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For me, either Jon is lazy or he has exhausted every possibility on recovering his range. Unfortunately, it's more on the former. He's in denial. When Israeli media interviewed him two weeks ago, he said that he'd continue touring as long as he can do it and he can hit the high notes. Because apparently his yardstick for "being able to reach high notes" is whether he can nail Always regardless of how much he'll struggle in the song. Our own yardstick is whether he could sing Bad Name properly.

Yes, Jon's singing actually sounds a lot younger than the past 7 years, minus the range and the power. He's regained more control of his rasp by forcing himself to sing higher (Always anyone?). He can still do it with power but I'm not sure with the range. Aside from general laziness, we don't even know HOW he experienced the third decline by November 2013. We knew that the first one was caused by vocal abuse, the second smoking, but none of us know what happened two years ago that caused his voice to thin dangerously.

Since the album is almost done, I just hope Jon uses the five months in-between as the time to find a vocal coach or something. However, don't expect him do to that if Always or These Days (or any big ballad save for Memory) gets thrown around in this leg.

Note that only the guitarists save for Bobby use social media. So I highly doubt Jon even reads these things.

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Bobby's not longer in the band and he does have a FB page (run by his daughter).

I highly doubt that Jovi Inc. don't keep an eye on fanpages.
How come he suddenly decided to include WDR in the setlist and even shoot a video when he previously insisted there would be no promo, no video, nothing for the BB album?


Personal message: Jon, you're an asshole, get your vocal cords checked, rest your voice between shows but practice vocal exercises everyday, do something, for chrissake!

Then again we don't know what the video was for. They shot a music video for This is Our House only to give it to a sports team and CBS. Shooting live footage of a song is so bottom of the barrel video making it probably didn't even cost them anything.

I guess the shooting is included in the touring contract. I googled the name of the company that uploaded snippets of the Jakarta show on YT, BEC-TERO: the company organizes concerts and is also involved in film and TV shows.
I bet you that the WDR vid will end up on YT as well, whatever it's used for in the first place.

Plans concerning the album might have changed lately because Mercury decided to release WDR as a proper single and demanded some promo. Record companies don't need an artist's green light to release a single from an album but they most likely negociated the shooting of a video with Jon. Shooting live footage is probably the only compromise Jon could accept.

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I beg to differ. I think that ever since Have A Nice Day, but especially on The Circle, you actually can hear how he just wasn't able to reach the stuff and studio trickery was done. Now, on Burning Bridges, the chorusses just don't sound natural.

I'm sure most people aren't able to hear it, but if you're a singer or know how singing and pronouncing stuff works, you are able to hear how a lot of stuff just has never been sung the way it sounds on the albums.

Apart from that, there's the poor way of copying and pasting on recent albums where Jon's not breathing in and out for a good minute or so. Jon's not going full throttle on the albums, but is putting on a fake rasp, which then seems to be pitched to the right volume, tempo and key.

Apart from that, many of his vocals are double tracked to give it a fuller effect. A trained ear can hear the differences, but the average Joe can't. The verses of It's My Life have him doing backing vocals for the entire song, a thing which is obvious when listening to the song a capella. Yet I'm sure this is news to a lot of people, but it's the reason why the song has never sound as good live as it does in the studio.

Now double tracking is something that's common in (pop) music exactly because most pop artists were good in the studio, but not so much live. Jon's voice used to be good enough that not a whole lot of that was needed, and he was pretty much always able to duplicate some of the studio vocals live. Nowadays, not so much. He hasn't sound good live in a few years because apart from his upper range being gone, his tone is gone as well. And that's something they are able to create in a studio.

An example: In the chorus of Saturday Night Gave Me Sunday Morning, the words "Saturday Night" seem to come from a different take in which he's using a different technique to reach that key. He can't change technique fast enough to pronounce the rest of the sentence the same way, so hence a different take is needed. And that's when Jon stopped sounding "out there" to me. Jon's no longer singing in the studio, but just pronouncing the words in the right key with an odd accent or technique that make it sound like rasp. It's not natural, and it's why it can't be replicated live.

Which is why Jon's voice nowadays does sound like an effect. The difference between him in the studio and him singing live is night and day. Anytime I hear a new studio take, I instantly hear all the tricks they've done to his vocals to make him sound good. It's why Lost Highway, despite the poor quality of the album itself, was a breath of fresh air. His vocals were recorded in a much more natural way. A live rendition of Whole Lot Of Leavin' still sounds close to the studio version, yet anything recorded after sounds different.

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As a non-singer (I don't even sing in the shower), I have a question.... How much does heat and humidity play in the lack of breath, the lack of movement and seeming exhausted? I live in the arctic and when I visit the southern USA in the summer, I can hardly breathe. The air seems so heavy on my lungs and exertion is difficult. This is a band that "follows the sun" which allows them to play in outdoor venues. The last time they played Asia, they were in their 30s, now they are in their 50s. My assumption is that Asia is quite hot and humid even though this time of year is probably the best time to be there.

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