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you can't always beat up human anatomy and age.
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I disagree. 53 is not 83. Here's what I posted in another thread, you may not have seen it:
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And let's face it people: sometimes, not even the best treatments in the world can save your damaged vocal cords... Don't you reckon he's already tried everything... ?
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I disagree. Many singers (opera and pop/rock singers alike) were told by doctors that they could never sing again and yet they did and they did it beautifully. Even Frankie did it! There's always a solution, not necessarily a medical one, but it demands discipline and extensive vocal training, so when you smoke and drink alcohol and coffee, just fuhgedabouddit!
On Dylan's and musicians voices in general:
http://www.vulture.com/2015/02/why-d...like-that.html
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Apart from throat cancer and the likes, there's nothing that can damage vocal cords forever, they're muscles, not a vital organ, they need training and caring.
If Jon stopped drinking and smoking, if he resumed vocal exercises and if he enjoyed again what he does he could sing great again. He couldn't have the famous high notes back because of his age (aging = hormonal change = physical changes such as a lower voice) but he would be able to sing in tune and with power.
http://www.drycounty.com/jovitalk/bo...232/page2.html
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While it's certainly true that you can do an awful lot in the studio to cover up lack of talent, mistakes or less than ideals performances (drums are probably the most common case along with vocals), it doesn't mean that you can somehow magically make something terrible sound amazing.
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But, again, bear in mind that no ammount of it would create the illusion of a powerful performance.
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However, no matter how much correction you apply to a vocal performance, there are STILL certain things you can't emulate. You can't really cover up for lack of vocal projection or 'power'
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Oh yes, you can perform miracles in the studio! Remember the boys bands and assorted pop tarts from the 80-90s? Why do you think they "sang" in playback during "live" performances? Some would really sing because they couldn't lip-synch and of course the mikes were turned off but if you stood close enough you could hear their real voices and realize they couldn't sing at all. We used to say that a good sound engineer could make a frog sing like Caruso way back then. So now that we have computers, sky's the limit!
It's very easy if you work like Avicii for example: he records songs syllable by syllable then put them together to make words (it's called "comping", I see you mentioned it too). That way, you can have singers give their all when they can't sing and project their voices on a 3-minute song. You explained it too when you talked about BB: Jon's voice sounds powerful on this album thanks to studio tricks.
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He's definitely going through a rough moment, vocal wise. Will he recover? Hard to say. This may be it, his vocal cords may be damaged beyond recovery and no amount of bitching on our camp will change that.
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Nope! Laziness is the culprit, not age. And also physical and mental health, it's the sum of all parts. When you got the blues, it can be heard through your voice; when you're having a bad diet, it can be heard through your voice. If the eyes are the mirror of the soul, a man's voice is the meter of his mind. A better physical and mental diet is the key to recovery.
Just sayin'!
