Could WAN have faired better under a different name?

Kathleen · #11 06-18-2013, 01:37 AM

Nor am I a housewife - I'm a structural engineer who likes Bon Jovi. Let's quit putting women down.

Mysterytrain · #12 06-18-2013, 02:14 AM

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Originally Posted by Kathleen

Nor am I a housewife - I'm a structural engineer who likes Bon Jovi. Let's quit putting women down.

Agreed. I'm not a housewife, either; I'm a library worker and freelance writer with no children.

The 'housewife' thing is perpetuated in the press, too, when it comes to Bon Jovi, and it's used in a way to basically say, "They're not respected as a rock band because their fan base is largely female, and females don't like 'real' rock music."

LeaJovi · #13 06-18-2013, 02:38 AM

The key word was "desperate". Not housewives.

Becky · #14 06-18-2013, 02:45 AM

My point remains. I've seen housewives put down on this board for years.

Sissy3 · #15 06-18-2013, 03:03 AM

And don't forget, most of these housewives were probably single young ladies when they first became fans. They just grew up, lived their lives and stayed faithful to the band of their youth. But any review of BJ music or concerts that references housewives, you know it's implied as a slam on the band and that's just sad.

Javier · #16 06-18-2013, 03:26 AM

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Originally Posted by Kathleen

I like the album but I just don't love it like I loved The Circle (and I know I'm in the minority there).

I've been saying the exact same thing ever since I first heard WAN....

Captmorgs · #17 06-18-2013, 03:26 AM

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Originally Posted by Becky

I think the album would have done better if it wasn't sold as anything related to Obama. If you associate it with Obama, right off the bat, you turn off about half your potential customers in the USA. (Just as you would if you associated your lyrical content it with ANY president.) I think they would do better if they, especially Jon, just kept their mouths shut about politics and let universal themes speak for themselves. Jon call still be all about "we" without associating the music with any politician.

Agreed. I don't think it affects sales in any way, but I think Jon short changes himself when he kept saying that it had to be released right now (then) to be relevant in the "post-first term Obama" world. If anything, you should strive for the songs to be timeless.

Becky · #18 06-18-2013, 03:30 AM

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Originally Posted by Captmorgs

If anything, you should strive for the songs to be timeless.

I agree and I think that's where The Circle failed and it's one reason it's my least favorite album. It didn't stand the test of time for me.

TwinFan · #19 06-18-2013, 03:45 AM

It would've fared much better if it weren't such a mediocre record.

"Army of One" wouldn't have helped them because it would've further accentuated the idea that Bon Jovi is a one man show. I think the best name for the album would've been "Because We Can". Although if it was billed as their final record, "What's Left of Me" would've fit.

Rdkopper · #20 06-18-2013, 06:19 AM

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Originally Posted by Kathleen

Army of One would have worked well I think.

Seriously Kathleen? With all this limited band interaction on the album and Jon solo talk, you think that would work as a title.

Its comments like this that makes me think that I'm the smartest fan here

Could WAN have faired better under a different name?

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