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Old 10-18-2005, 09:05 PM
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Not everyone who goes to a show has ALL albums of that particular band. I dare say half of them are spouses/boyfriends that only go to keep peace in the household (ok that might be exaggerated). Very few concerts I go to, do I have all releases from that artist - especially if we are talking about a band that has been around for 20 years.


Still, I remain puzzled at how many tickets the band sells in Europe and the East coast (though the hometown thing, I do get). Over here, they play relatively small venues (in comparison to the 50,000 seaters in Europe) and they don't even sell out those...
Oh yeah, I understand that totally, it just strikes me as slightly odd, as it did with Bounce, that they can sell out such massive venues to massive amounts of people but not sell anywhere near as many records. I mean they've sold half as many albums of HAND as they have tickets to their concerts in the UK. Now you would have to assume atleast 75% of all people going would own or will own the current cd, not to mention people who would buy an album but not go to a concert.

As for why they can sell out stadiums over here, it's simple. They are a massively popular band, and have been for over 15 years. In that time they have attracted legions of fans and people in Europe tend to be less fickel then Americans (probably due to far less choice) and Bon Jovi rightly have an incredibley good reputation over here as probably the best live band in the world.



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Old 10-18-2005, 09:11 PM
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Oh yeah, I understand that totally, it just strikes me as slightly odd, as it did with Bounce, that they can sell out such massive venues to massive amounts of people but not sell anywhere near as many records. I mean they've sold half as many albums of HAND as they have tickets to their concerts in the UK. Now you would have to assume atleast 75% of all people going would own or will own the current cd, not to mention people who would buy an album but not go to a concert.
Well that's where you're wrong. Bon Jovi attracts teeny boppers nowadays and they're people who don't have the money to go to concerts, or are just not interested. For them it's just another nice CD on the shelf. Another part of the audience are there because they love the old tracks so much, which is why Bon Jovi more and more is becoming a nostalgia act. Nothing new, people know what to expect and it's all predictable.[/QUOTE]

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Bon Jovi rightly have an incredibley good reputation over here as probably the best live band in the world.
Mwuahhaha. Yeah, suuuuure.

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Old 10-18-2005, 09:30 PM
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Don't under estimate bon jovi's reputation, seb.

Even in Sweden were they always have been quite doll, do they have a huge respect, perhaps not as a superb rock band, but as a live act and as international artists.
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Old 10-18-2005, 09:51 PM
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Don't under estimate bon jovi's reputation, seb.

Even in Sweden were they always have been quite doll, do they have a huge respect, perhaps not as a superb rock band, but as a live act and as international artists.
I'm not saying they don't have a bad reputation as a live band, but they're far from the best band out there. They're never rated as one of the best acts on tour from a certain year or something like that.

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Old 10-18-2005, 09:59 PM
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I'm not saying they don't have a bad reputation as a live band, but they're far from the best band out there. They're never rated as one of the best acts on tour from a certain year or something like that.

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No, they've never been ranked as the best live act, but for sure among the top artists in the world.
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Well that's where you're wrong. Bon Jovi attracts teeny boppers nowadays and they're people who don't have the money to go to concerts, or are just not interested. For them it's just another nice CD on the shelf. Another part of the audience are there because they love the old tracks so much, which is why Bon Jovi more and more is becoming a nostalgia act. Nothing new, people know what to expect and it's all predictable.

Can't speak for Europe, but it's not the case in the US. I'd say the average fan at a Bon Jovi concert here is in their late 20's to mid 30's.
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No, they've never been ranked as the best live act, but for sure among the top artists in the world.
Are we talking financially or their repuation as a live band.

Again, can't speak for Europe, but in the US, they are VERY well known as being one of the best live acts in the world.
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Are we talking financially or their repuation as a live band.

Again, can't speak for Europe, but in the US, they are VERY well known as being one of the best live acts in the world.
It's like that in Europe as well, although Phil exaggerated a bit, I think.

But in Europe there are a lot of good livebands, we have for instance Robbie Williams (not my liking though) and Ramstein (their music sucks, but their live shows are amazing!). So here Jovi are more or less a part of group of artists.
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I think Coldplay is very similar with the U2. I don't like Coldplay, their songs are very slow.
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Can't speak for Europe, but it's not the case in the US. I'd say the average fan at a Bon Jovi concert here is in their late 20's to mid 30's.
Which is exactly what I'm saying. So it is the case for the US, they're going for the older songs and for the fact that they know what they're getting: a greatest hits show part 142532543. It's just a nostalgia act, and the fact that they play new songs doesn't change anything about it, it's still the same every tour. 5 new songs, the rest is greatest hits.

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