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Old 10-30-2004, 07:33 PM
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Sorry if it wasn't clear that the first paragraph wasn't my opinion. I wasn't sure how to use quotation marks.
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Sorry if it wasn't clear that the first paragraph wasn't my opinion. I wasn't sure how to use quotation marks.
What about "(text here)"? :P
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Just a reality check here - I had my last child in my 40's and have now been married (to the same guy) for 36 years. We had been married 21 years when she was born. Trust me - I was NOT saving a failing marriage by having my daughter - I was just a late starter lol.

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Old 10-30-2004, 11:27 PM
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Just a reality check here - I had my last child in my 40's and have now been married (to the same guy) for 36 years. We had been married 21 years when she was born. Trust me - I was NOT saving a failing marriage by having my daughter - I was just a late starter lol.

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Oh, I have no doubt the situation is absolutely no different for Jon and Dorothea. I really think your situation and their's make for the best type of parents. Those kids having babies in their early 20s and younger really do not have the scope of life experience to be great parents.

I'll go on to say the vast majority of those kids are only following what society tells them is the next step..being the good, unquestioning consumers they were raised to be. Graduate high school or college, go get married, buy a house and have kids. Get buried in a mountain of debt. Be forever developmentally stunted because they didn't get a chance to really live life as an adult so they come up with ideas like having babies to hold a relationship together and project that on everyone else. Let's also not forget that the concept of a couple NOT having children is completely alien to them and assume something is wrong with the relationship or their reproductive system.
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Old 10-30-2004, 11:42 PM
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Just a reality check here - I had my last child in my 40's and have now been married (to the same guy) for 36 years. We had been married 21 years when she was born. Trust me - I was NOT saving a failing marriage by having my daughter - I was just a late starter lol.

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Oh, I have no doubt the situation is absolutely no different for Jon and Dorothea. I really think your situation and their's make for the best type of parents. Those kids having babies in their early 20s and younger really do not have the scope of life experience to be great parents.

I'll go on to say the vast majority of those kids are only following what society tells them is the next step..being the good, unquestioning consumers they were raised to be. Graduate high school or college, go get married, buy a house and have kids. Get buried in a mountain of debt. Be forever developmentally stunted because they didn't get a chance to really live life as an adult so they come up with ideas like having babies to hold a relationship together and project that on everyone else. Let's also not forget that the concept of a couple NOT having children is completely alien to them and assume something is wrong with the relationship or their reproductive system.
very well said.

The whole opinion as quoted is too idiotic to respond to from my side. The only issue I take offense with is to say something retarded as "why is she having a baby when she is in her 40s?" ==== I believe having kids is a completely personal issue and I'd never read anything else into it other than they wanted a baby, so they had one. End of story.

Oh one other thing, I think it awesome of Dorothea to look the way she does - surely with all their money, she could have gone out and 'bought' the look anyone might expect the wife of JBJ to have. Instead, she showed that she is mighty attractive despite what some might call 'beauty flaws' --- makes Jon even more attractive to think he values women for more or other traits than looks only.
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What is the relationship between Jon and Dorothea to any of us, it's their business and nobody elses! Maybe he's cheated, maybe she's cheated, maybe they both have, maybe neither they have... It's not our business, it's up to them. In this day and age no woman can decide for herself to have a baby, it takes two to tango *sings the cheesy Finnish Eurovision song of this year in her head*. Which marriage doesn't have its ups and downs, its problems, its own highs and lows? They make their own timetable, they decide when to have babies, don't they? They've been married for 15 years and together for way longer, I think they know each other the best and they can decide for themselves.

Does it make a difference to us as fans? I for one appreciate their marriage, it's lasted through the ups and downs, and I do appreciate the fact that Jon hasn't gone for a model, actress, a wannabe that he must be surrounded with so much of the time. At the end of the day, Dorothea is the one he goes home to, and I respect that greatly.

Why does this subject keep cropping up time after time?
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Because, regardless or whether you like it or not, people are curious. We like to know what's going on with our favourite musicians/movie stars/television stars. We especially like bad news or rumors about evil doings. It might be sad but it's also true.

And just so you know there is an increased risk of having a low birth weight infant or a premature infant in women over 40. There's also an increased risk for Down Syndrome, pregnancy induced hypertension, and gestational diabetes in women who get pregnant after 40. The simple fact is, having a child after 40 is risky, not just for the women, but also for the infant.

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Oh, I have no doubt the situation is absolutely no different for Jon and Dorothea. I really think your situation and their's make for the best type of parents. Those kids having babies in their early 20s and younger really do not have the scope of life experience to be great parents.
That's just Bullshit. I've seen teenagers who are better mothers than 30 and 40 year old mothers. I'm not saying all teen moms are great mothers but oftentimes they can be. So can 20 years olds.
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Obviously there is no edict that young mothers can't be good mothers. They can be.

But generally, a 20 year old mother cannot bring the same amount of life experience to the table as a mother in her 30s. There is just no other way about it. Unless you are exceptional, you have barely begun to live at 21.
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I don't see anything wrong with starting a family later. My mum was 37 when she had me, and nearly 41 when she had my sister. I also don't think that there's anything wrong starting a family early, if that's what you really want. It's all up to the couple.
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And just so you know there is an increased risk of having a low birth weight infant or a premature infant in women over 40. There's also an increased risk for Down Syndrome, pregnancy induced hypertension, and gestational diabetes in women who get pregnant after 40. The simple fact is, having a child after 40 is risky, not just for the women, but also for the infant.
This may be the case, but with advances in modern medicine, it is quite common to start a family later in life. Just look at all of the celebrities who are doing it with no problems. It is more common and feasible now, than it was back in the day.
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