Ebay scammer/rare demos

I used Debit/Visa. My question is, am I going to get in trouble for buying something like this? Or attempting to?

"Please be aware there is a fan by the name of Daniel Vélez from Columbia claiming to have hundreds of out takes and demos that he is willing to sell for the right price. He’s taken advantage of some trusting fans recently and will send you a fake .rar file once he’s been sent the money.

Web aliases include Claptonstring and Claptonpick, he tried this scam on ebay as well.
If you have any information on this or have been tricked by him in the past please e-mail joviscammer@gmail.com, any help would be amazing.

I can provide a list of the fake songs he’s offering, send me an e-mail."

If you guys can post this wherever you're able that would be AMAZING.

I don't think so, it's not like it's illegal to own the recordings. If you say "he claimed he had previously unreleased songs by the bands and was selling them", you're not lying, and I doubt anybody would be like BUT YOU'RE BUYING SOMETHING ILLEGAL. But I'm not familiar with US law.

You might but it's very unlikely. Look for the definition of "offence of concealment" or "fencing" in a law dictionary.

FYI guys, yes, buying and owning illegal material such as audio and video bootlegs is illegal in every country of the world.

Over here you would be able to raise it as a chargeback on your debit card, although generally they want proof something wasn't sent. It would be worth looking into for sure. I wouldn't worry about what you were buying, it's a cd as far as their concerned.

Your email correspondence would act as sufficient proof that the items(s) weren't sent and your bank isn't likely to bat an eyelid as to what it was you were buying unless it's something extremely dodgy. Asking them to chase up a chargeback because your shipment of AK41s didn't arrive would raise eyebrows, this shouldn't IMO.

It's easier to chase fraud cases that were funded via a credit card but it is by no means impossible to retrieve it from a debit card case as well - I think the timeframes involved are a lot tighter though and it needs to be within 30 days of the transaction. I could be wrong but it's worth looking into.

You could even chase it through Paypal as they offer 180 day cover. You don't even have to mention that it was an eBay auction. Technically, the auction had ended and you offered to buy the goods privately. You weren't breaching any eBay rules. If you'd asked him to end the auction early and buy it at a reduced price to cut eBay out of the sale, you would be in a tricky situation but you didn't. What you did was a legitimate transaction so it might be worth speaking with Paypal over their clawback procedures in the case of fraud.

Capt Jovi,

Just curious? Why did you do this on your own and not include other members? Or should I say, ALL other members?

Me and another member were going to jump in on the deal and you never included us. I don't know if you only did a select group or did this on your own but i'm a little disappointed. What if this did turnout to be the real deal?

I don't mean to give you a hard time but you sent out a post asking 'who's in' and to PM you... I did (along with other members), you responded to us and we had minimal communication, and then you moved forward without including us.

Again, I'm not trying to give you a hard time but more so, just curious. We were both in for a significant amount and could have added on more to the pool. Like I said, if this was the real deal, wouldn't you want more money?

Paypal already washed their hands of this once they realized I sent it as money and didn't buy it as Goods and Services. They said to talk to my bank so I'm going to file it as fraud tonight.

RD, I received a lot of PM's and I pulled the trigger after I was more certain. The board and breaking things up for interested parties would have come afterwards, I was fronting the cost to take it off the market and then deal with the rest when I received it.

Definitely file with your bank - the worst they can say is fuggedaboudit.

And quit beating yourself up - we all have (probably anyway) been scammed at some point in our lives.

The only reason I know what I do is that I lost £150 to an eBay scammer selling Jovi tickets. The main problem with tickets is that you buy them well in advance and because they aren't issued until nearer the gig, you only know you've been duped months after parting with the cash. I'd actually spent in the region of £350 on them but thankfully, I'd done it in two transactions and the larger one was funded by a credit card so I got my money back on that one. The debit card one was a write-off though as too much time had passed and the bank didn't want to know.

I hope you find a way to recoup your losses. It's natural to beat up on yourself about it but even the most diligent get caught out at times. You aren't the one in the wrong, remember.