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Old 12-14-2017, 08:03 PM
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.... If I were Richie, I would've used stronger language, emphasizing how I had spent 30 years, co-wrote their hits, was the right hand man, etc. I feel like a stronger stance would've put a good pressure on Jon to do the whole set, but he chose not to...
I probably would have, too. And one might think, if Richie is as arrogant and has such an over-inflated opinion of himself as ppl seem to believe, he would have jumped at the chance; but he didn't.

I still believe that a lot of LWTG is what Richie said to Jon before he left about "the shovel that's digging this grave". I think Richie's the one who "dropped my sword, put down my shield" because he realized that it's futile to try and fight the machine. It's Jon's show; and Jon is gonna do what Jon wants to do, regardless of what anybody else thinks.

For the same reason, I disagree with whoever posted that it seemed "childish" for Richie to say "if I'm invited, I'll play". It wasn't like he was pouting or saying Jon would have to break down and ask, or beg him to play. IMO, he was just acknowledging that it's not his choice. Yes, he can go to the induction with no one's permission and without further invitation; but somebody else, either Jon or the RRHOF, will decide who performs. And if they want him there, he's ready to go; and willing to play with whoever they want to put on the stage.

In the end, it didn't matter that Richie didn't say any of those things, anyway; because even though he chose not to bring any of it up, Eddie said a lot of it in his closing comments to Richie:

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...And I’m gonna say this, too. I mean, I know you’re not in this right now; but you should own this as much as anybody else, man. Because your playing, your writing, your singing… I don’t think Bon Jovi happens to the level it did without what you brought to this thing. So, congratulations, man. And you should own it and be celebrated as much anybody else on that stage that night."

People know the role Richie has played. If Jon wants to try to diminish that by putting Phil and Shanks and Everett on the same level as the guys who built their legacy, or by making it look like Richie and Alec are red-headed, left-handed, step-children who are invited to the party only because the benevolent host so graciously allows it, that's on him.

Richie's got nothing to prove. Anybody who's followed the band knows he has every bit as much right to be there as Jon does.
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Old 12-14-2017, 08:12 PM
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So Richie’s Trunk interview is online now? Great!

Regarding Hugh, I think once the decision was made, everyone was fine with it. Hugh hasn’t left and he could have. The loyalty to Alec was deserved and an established pattern. Don’t forget when the company signed Jon, they wanted him to replace Tico and Alec with younger players and he fought to keep them.
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Old 12-14-2017, 08:44 PM
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It would be great if Bon Jovi started with Prayer and then Wanted, just the original lineup, and after they play another classic along with the current band. If they do it the other way around, it would be weird, this honor is not for Phil X, J Shanks, Hugh and Everet.

This honor is for Jon, David, Tico, Richie and Alec, they should the performance together, prayer and wanted. Then they play Bad Medicine with the whole current and the original lineup band, and in the middle of the song make a jukebox with some classic, maybe from The Cars and The Moody Blues and Dire Straits? It would be awesome.

My set list of the night
1º Living on a prayer (Original lineup: JBJ, DB, TT, RS, AJS)
2º Wanted dead or Alive (Original lineup: JBJ, DB, TT, RS, AJS)
3º Bad Medicine/jukebox** (Original and current lineup together= JBJ, DB, TT, RS, AJS and PX, JS, HM, EB)

**jukebox= play some classic of The Cars, The Moody Blues or Dire Straits. (with some of these members joining in the jam).
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Old 12-14-2017, 08:49 PM
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I love Bad Medicine, but I don’t think that’s the kind of song you play at a prestigious event in front of your peers. I mean, yeah it would be lyrically better than anything by KISS, but Bon Jovi has better songs.
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Old 12-14-2017, 08:56 PM
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I love Bad Medicine, but I don’t think that’s the kind of song you play at a prestigious event in front of your peers. I mean, yeah it would be lyrically better than anything by KISS, but Bon Jovi has better songs.
but it's pure rock n roll and that's what matters. It would be an explosion and with the jukebox would be impressive and very suitable for the occasion.
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Old 12-14-2017, 08:58 PM
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Jon already said that he´s going to do songs that covers the 3 generations of the band.

My bet would it be

1- Prayer (Original Line UP)
2- Wanted (Original Line Up)
3- IML medley with the new song (Mixed Line UP)
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Old 12-14-2017, 09:07 PM
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but it's pure rock n roll and that's what matters. It would be an explosion and with the jukebox would be impressive and very suitable for the occasion.
Pure Rock and Roll matters? How have all these rap and folk singers gotten into the HOF?

It’s juvenile. 56 year old Jon Bon Jovi is not going to sing “ you’re an all night generator wrapped in stockings and a dress” in front of a room full of critics, peers, and luminaries.
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Old 12-14-2017, 09:11 PM
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Let's see some cases.

U2

Vertigo
Until the end of the world
I Still Haven't Found What I'm Looking For (with The Boss)


Metallica

Master of Puppets with Newsted
Enter sandman with Newsted
Train Kept a Rollin' (with Jason Newsted, J page, J Beck, R Wood, J Perry, Flea)

Aerosmith

Jared & Train kept a Rollin'

Sweet Emotion (With Kid Rock)
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Old 12-14-2017, 09:18 PM
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Pure Rock and Roll matters? How have all these rap and folk singers gotten into the HOF?

It’s juvenile. 56 year old Jon Bon Jovi is not going to sing “ you’re an all night generator wrapped in stockings and a dress” in front of a room full of critics, peers, and luminaries.
Why not? It is one of the few songs that critics love. And it's a live bomb. But you are right, it will be unlikely, surely it will be Who Says You Cant Go Home.
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Old 12-14-2017, 09:27 PM
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When did critics start loving Bad Medicine?

Also, I don’t know what point you’re trying to make with the video clips.

Doesn’t matter. It’s just opinions which are the lowest form of knowledge. At best, we’re making different judgment calls.
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