Have A Nice Day live

Richie's not a fan of it but doesn't mind it, tico hates it
dunno about Dave.

i don't care if they like rehearsing or not- it's their fvcking job! and taking 50€ and more for a concert ticket and earning a shitload of money for 2 hours (fairly said, they've played longer than that at the bounce tour) is kinda "immoral" if it's not in proper quality. some guys (especially the young ones) save everything they get just to be able to buy the bus/train or whatever and the ticket and a hotel room etc. and then the sires on stage fvck up every song because they're too lazy to do their job properly. the more money one earns, the more professionality can be expected. if they don't like making music they should go find another job!

Aloha !

Er, yes, there are performances of Hey God and Keep The Faith that are just as good as the studioversions. Not from this time though, but from the Keep The Faith Era, and These Days era.

Yes, but this comment comes from a person who thinks the One Wild Night Tour had Jon's best vocals ever. Jon was just weak, out of breath already after the first chorus, and if this is an indication of what's about to come the upcoming tour, it's not a good sign. Being out of breath after 2 verses and a chorus. Oh boy...And Everyday sounds crap live because of the lack of all the layers they put on all the studioversions.

Jon has never sung It's My Life as powerful as it is on the studioversions. Most performances of it sound nasal and sung out of his nose. Just like the talkbox isn't as powerful live as it is on the studioversion.

I know how recording the lead vocals goes. But when they need 4 tracks to complete one chorus, it just shows that Jon isn't capable of singing it. End of story. If he can't sing 2 lines of this chorus after another, and needs several takes to complete one chorus, it's fake. Sure, no one gets it in one take. But I can expect a singer to be able to sing a verse or chorus in one take, right? And dropping a song one complete tune is stupid. See, it's known that Britney's voice is being worked on in the studio by using computers and it's a shame, but now Jon does it as well, and you lot are saying that it's alright.

True, but these occasions were TV broadcasts, and were only a few songs, and Jon gives a lot more when he performs on TV ánd does only a few songs. He's able to give a lot more, if not all, because he doesn't need to save his voice for a complete show.

This has been true for all performances ever since they started as a band, so this is no excuse for this song being different than anything else they've done.

They've never done a song in the same key live as in the studio since 1988, with only a few exceptions. Have A Nice Day isn't one of them. You can easily hear that it's tuned down though.

Just because they're Jon singing doesn't mean they can't be digitally enhanced. Duh.

Salaam Aleikum,
Sebastiaan

i think that most of the times you got really good points but this above isn't one of them.
we're living in the computer era and everything which is recorded these days is recorded digitally- meaning with computers. and the point isn't the fact that they make the voice better by using computers (it would be stupid if they wouldn't) the point is how much you HAVE to do it.
if an artist makes several takes with his standard programming (echoes and stuff) and then goes out and says "well, line a is best sung on take 3, line b is best sung on take 1 let's mix them together aso" then i think it's totally ok to do so...
but if someone who's the puppet on a string goes into the recroom and howls out a few tunes and the producer sits on his chair thinking "what the hell can i do that no-one hears that she just can't sing" then it's a totally different stuff. and it's a crime if someone like that makes a living as a musician.

btw: i'm not saying that jon is a great musician- he's by far not among the best singers and his guitar playing... well...listen to his intro of i get a rush e.g. and you'll know what i wanna say... but he writes his songs himself (with richie or some other guys) and from time to time he really produces some great stuff. and that's what should be acknowldged. it's the same with the rolling stones- they're horrible musicians actually but they write enormously great stuff.

I think Bon Jovi live is a two-sided experience. The band has come far instrumentally, surpassing anything I've heard from the 80s. But Jon doesn't put the vocal effort into it anymore. Technically I think he's better, but he doesn't have the omph he did back in his unschooled 86 glory days. I know this is due to throat problems, but that doesn't change that a lot of stuff that sounds great on albums will forevermore be toned down, and ultimately slightly disappointing live.

Writing and producing is all about knowing your boundaries. It would be pointless for Jon to write a song that he isn't able to sing live, or to write a guitar solo that he can't play time after time. I know he struggles with some of the older stuff from the SWW era, but at the time he was able to hit every note night after night. He was a good singer then, not great, but good. Obviously now his voice has deteriorated a bit, which makes him a kinda average singer, but HAND is a good vocal performance. If it was enchanced in the studio then Jon did well in Philly to get close to the quality of the vocals on the record.

I think the point of knowing your boundaries is proved with one or two artists. For example Bob Dylan and Mark Knopfler are far from great singers, but they were never foolish enough to write a song that they couldn't sing. Can you imagine Bob or Mark taking on something like Livin' on a Prayer or Bed of Roses? No you couldn't, because they don't have the range and would sound awful.

I prefer the live version of HAND over the studio version. It's heavier, I don't really like that acoustic guitar they put on there. eww.

The WMA version was better than I expected tbh, the mix sounded ok to me??
Jon's voice sounded fine on the verses, but yeh, he struggles at certain points during the chorus etc. The mix was better than the AMA's and Live8.

Kind of depressing to hear that it's being sung half a step lower already though..

Thing is, we all know jon's voice ain't a patch on what it was, and livewise it holds the band back at times (in particular richie's backing vocals and the tempo of some songs) And that gets me down. big time.
But their still my favourite band. Always will be. What do we want them to do, give up and not make records anymore because jon can't sing like he used to? no thanks.

I dunno, I still keep hoping jon (And the band) will nail Livin' On a Prayer everytime they play it, but is it ever gonna happen again? no. it sucks, but that doesn't mean they should stop playing.

It doesn't help that they rarely seem to have a good sound mix. The majority of times when I hear them, the sound seems really weedy an lifeless. Maybe it's time to get a better sound engineer?

As for having extra musicians, well I dont see the point of another keyboard player tbh, But having a rythym guitarist up there next to hugh is just fine by me, should help to flesh out the guitars and beef the sound up. (In theory).

Ok Seb , lets see how I can respond to all this.
About the tv broadcasts: That's the thing Seb, I think it's tougher for Jon to do these promo shows than it is the tour stuff. Over the years, I've seen more than one song that was good but not great during promo and then they blew me away with that same song on tour. KTF comes to mind. I went to a promo appearance for that and the song just sounded flat and the band just wasn't tight on it yet. Then when I saw it the first time on tour they nailed it and I was like wow, what a great song live. I just think making qa judgement based on a couple of pre tour appearances and going into touring with a pre-concieved notion that this or that song is going to be bad, makes it difficult to give a honest open minded opinion of it when you do hear it live.
I wasn't making an excuse for anything. I refer back to the above.
Maybe it has been but not so I really noticed, the tune down isn't terribly drastic like it is on "radio".
No need to be rude Seb, I just don't agree that Jon is using enhancement tricks on his voice in the studio. We are allowed to disagree aren't we??

Supersonic I have one thing to ask you...did u ever went on stage and sing live?? And my friend I'm recording my album right now and the norm is 12 tracks for a lead singer so If Jon did 4 tracks that means it nailed it very quickly.... so if u're not a singer u can't judge how things work I ve been playing in front of thousand and thousand ppl there s a lot going on in ur head while u're up there and entertaint ppl... I think Jon voice is weaker than before for sure but from what I ve heard so far from HAND he sounds a lot more powerful and in IT in this record wait to hear I wanna be loved and I am just wow!

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