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Old 10-01-2019, 10:15 PM
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I completely agree. It's been more of a business than a band for a long time.
Just like KISS, It's only a showband and merchandise but not Rock band anymore
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Old 10-01-2019, 10:22 PM
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Hi! I've seen this vid from one show in brazil
https://youtu.be/VjIVtQtzml0
Jon's voice is really bad I think Jon should go down with the people and let the other guys sing like Everett did lmao
Since the end of 2013 he can’t sing anymore. But what makes me cringe the most is that Jon has shown that, as long as people keep coming, he’ll continue on stage with performances like this. He doesn’t give a damn about the reputation that they’ve built as a live act. As long as people pay him, he’ll do it. So I ask you: is this house really not for sale ?
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Old 10-01-2019, 11:01 PM
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I saw that this morning and felt sick. I won't pretend to know anything about singing, but I'm confused - Does the fact that his voice shot dirrectly correlate to him not singing anything in tune or even at the right speed? It's like he's speaking the words.
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Old 10-01-2019, 11:36 PM
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I saw that this morning and felt sick. I won't pretend to know anything about singing, but I'm confused - Does the fact that his voice shot dirrectly correlate to him not singing anything in tune or even at the right speed? It's like he's speaking the words.
Yes. I’d say the timing issues are more related to breathing issues, as if he doesn’t have enough breath in order to keep up with song, thus he has to stop and breathe, becoming out of time. Jon always had a great voice, but never a great singing technique. As long as he got the pipes, his technical flaws were “hidden”. Now that he doesn’t have them anymore, the issues are all out in the open, for example the breathing issue.

As for the tuning issues, every note you reach and/or hold requires some “effort” on your vocal chords, regardless if you’re using your lower, middle of upper range. Vocal chords are like muscles, the more damaged they are, the harder it is to apply any effort on them. That’s why he can’t reach or hold the right notes anymore. His vocal chords are too damaged to allow him to.
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Why does Jon care so much of his image / stadions / songs etc. yet he doesnt care of his singing voice? I mean come F*****N on. This is ridiculous. Quit now. Please.
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This is ridiculous. Quit now. Please.

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They need to retire as a live band. That is it.

Stick together to create albums. Do a show here or there.
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Old 10-03-2019, 11:58 AM
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They need to retire as a live band. That is it.

Stick together to create albums. Do a show here or there.
I agree 100%
Its time to quit as a live act,or just do a few small shows to present the albums and thats all.
Jon is destroying all the reputation the band earned in 30 years.
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Bottom line is, does Jon realize what extent he's lost his voice to? Does he even care about it anymore?

IS IT ALL ABOUT THE BUCKS FOR HIM, FOR F*CK'S SAKE????? DOESN'T HE HAVE ANY F*CKING RESPECT FOR US FANS??????????

Yes, I'm angry as hell. I don't know Jon anymore - he's lost himself as much as we've lost him.
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Old 10-04-2019, 04:25 PM
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Bottom line is, does Jon realize what extent he's lost his voice to? Does he even care about it anymore?

IS IT ALL ABOUT THE BUCKS FOR HIM, FOR F*CK'S SAKE????? DOESN'T HE HAVE ANY F*CKING RESPECT FOR US FANS??????????

Yes, I'm angry as hell. I don't know Jon anymore - he's lost himself as much as we've lost him.
sorry to ask, but what's with the respect for fans? I mean, whoever goes to shows enjoys it, if u don't enjoy it u don't go, it's pretty simple to me. I don't think that doing terrible shows is a lack of respect for someone like you posting on this forum...it's their job and they can do whatever they want honestly, it's up to you decide to follow them or not, you're not forced to do it (to me 2000 shows with a terrible voice won't affect my love for them, i'll simply keep listening to old stuff and that's all)
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