How Do You Rank Sambora to the Likes of Joe Perry, Slash?

it baffles me that anyone can rate joe perry better than sambora and then say richie is more technical than slash!

Sambo is my hero-Slash is a better player!

They're both great at what they do just that richie has gotten worse with time and slash is now a monster player!

That is wrong. Slash was never much of a player.
He wrote better riffs and simple, memorable solos (I wanted to add melodic to that, but realised that many of his solos don't even fit the melodic structure of the songs) but technically speaking, he's the anti-virtuoso. There's a reason he never made it in Poison, no matter how many times he says he wasn't good looking enough for them. Those guys needed a shredder, an EvH II, a Randy Rhoads II, not a drunken blues player who can't even hold the guitar properly.

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What's this all about? Slash has been filling up every song with his now trademark riffs and sounds, and the comment on "not being able to hold the guitar properly" is just silly.

This Slash bashing is just silly. People tend to think that in order to be a good guitar player you need to be very, very skilled, which isn't true. It's not what you can, it's how you use your own abilities. Slash has perfected his own style while Richie's been getting sloppier year after year. And as for Slash's simple guitar solo's; try playing any Slash solo the way Slash does them. There's not many who can, Axl's has 40 guitar players and yet none of them, with all their technical perfection could nail Sweet Child like Slash can.

I'm not saying Slash is technically better than Richie, but when comparing the two it's Slash with his so called limited skills who's done way more memorable stuff than Richie has. Just play any song Slash is on and people will recognize his playing style. Play any Richie Sambora song and no one knows who it is. If Slash was never much of a player then what makes a guitarist a player?

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Retrospectively speaking you are right. Spot on. In the context of Poison, he came across as such, no matter how he twists it around. The guys wanted a shredder, and Slash wasn't one and he'll never be. He doesn't have the technical ability to be one.

I wasn't bashing Slash. I actually am a fan. By player I mean purely 'technique'. Sorry if that was misunderstood. I don't think he is even close to Sambora in terms of overall technique. And to be honest, overall, I think Slash regressed just as much as Richie. While he doesn't make the drunken mistakes so much (cause he's been sober more often!) he hasn't done anything memorable in ages. And live he's just soulless and boring whereas I still get excited by Richie (but this may be subjective)

That's such a different conversation. For example, Phil X who is technically brilliant was never able to play any Richie solo just like Richie. Technique is not the only factor that contributes to how a solo sounds. The tone, the feeling, the band around you. I'd even argue that Slash's solos never sounded again the way they sounded when he was in GnR. Not even with Velvet Revolver. I am sure Izzy played a part in that.

Again, we can argue about lots of your points in there. Many of Slash's solos are recognisable because they are part of massive hits. It's the same with some of Sambora's licks, riffs and solos ...Say the intro to Wanted, the riff in Bad Name, the solo in Keep The Faith, the talkbox in Prayer. If you told them both to record a random impro piece and ask people to name who the guitarist is, I doubt many would be able to instantly recognise either of them. Hell, people are more likely to recognise the Edge over Eddie Van Halen. Don't tell me you'd like to start that debate.

Again, overall I rate Slash highly. My point was specific to his technique rather than his overall sound or the actual bits he has written. In the end it's the BB King, John Lee Hooker, etc. debate. I mean, BB King says himself, he can't play basic chords - that's why he's not much of a player. He still is a great ****in' guitarist, because of his attitude, his songs, his sound, less so because of his playing ability.

I can see how people will have a different point of view, and that's fine. I won't go into a debate on this. It was just meant to clarify my own points of view. Hope they make more sense.

oh sweet mother of ****!

CC De Ville is one of the reasons i started to play and write...but please...he can't play for shit

I will go on record now and say this-yes he's sold 30 million records and i've sold about 100 if i m lucky...but I'm a better guitarist than he is.

I'm not better than slash or sambora however De Ville is GASH. Great songs great hooks...decent in the studio....but a paraplegic can sound good after months in the studio!

also,

Slash wanted to be in a 5-piece and Bret Michaels insisted they stick as a four.

Bobby Dall and Rikki wanted Slash but Bret wanted CC.

then De Ville turned up having not learned the songs as he had been asked but had talk dirty to me (which he stole!) and the rest as they say is history!

Please listen to this Always solo (Auckland 2010) and than give me any prove that Slash is a better player. For me it's not only great music but also great example of real guitar technique (legato, dynamics, timing) that is far above what Slash can do. His bending is fast and accurate while Slash is out of tune most of the time. I don't know how he is better. For example Slash can play fast only using legato, because he can't pick any fast at all.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature...orudgbE#t=269s

Or this pretty crazy alternate picking from Any Other Day live, on two strings simultaneously, then single note alternate picking on three different strings. How this isn't technical? It's about 130bmp and everything in sixths
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature...NNQ_Djw#t=399s

I'm really into that topic because I'm studying electric guitar at jazz department in polish high school of music. And many times I heard about Slash, but I did't want to go into discussion hearing only his GNR work.

PLEASE, DON'T WRITE THAT SLASH IS BETTER TECHNICALL OR GIVE ME ANY PROVE OF HIM BEING TECHNICAL.
THANKS

sambora is generic.

there's nothing majorly difficult about any of his picking.

Slash could play anything sambora has ever done...richie couldn't play slash!




the guy is smokin as a picker and a MILLION times the blues player Richie is

As a guitarist to this day, richie lost. But as an artist, in my opinon win, Richie's songs have more passion than the catalog of Slash and Joe Perry solo.

Richie lost a ton of his chops. If the recent unplugged solo show is to be believed, the situation is rather awful. I love some of his leads, but in terms of riffs, there's not been many situations for hin to show off.

Slash seems to have improved. I never liked his playing that much, but within his framework, he is excellent and does a lot of original stuff.

Joe Perry was never much of a technical player, but he was a monster groover and riffer. Aerosmith, much like original G&R, are about guitar INTERPLAY. He's great at that.