How Should Jon and The Band Go Out?

Rdkopper · #61 10-05-2015, 04:25 AM

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Originally Posted by Kathleen

I think I will put my 2 cents in here. I used to be a moderator here back in the dark ages on the file sharing forum. That particular forum was a mess, constant fighting and accusations (I share more than you do nah nah) etc. I came in after many people couldn't sort it out or didn't have the patience to deal with it. I established rules and banned people when they weren't followed. I was undermined constantly by the board administrator Peter. If someone didn't like what I did, they would whine to Peter and he would support them and undermine what I did. It happened frequently enough that I quit early on. Peter's response was to close the file sharing forum entirely. You cannot moderate without the support of the board owner and at the time, I didn't have that.

The problem here has always been a lack of agreement on behavior and then the ability to enforce it. Peter has always been adamant about not banning people and that still undermines the present moderators. Combine that with there being only one (or perhaps two) moderators who actually have the power to ban people and yes - it's a thankless fcuking job.

Thanks Kathleen!!! That was beautiful

JackieBlue · #62 10-05-2015, 04:59 AM

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Originally Posted by Becky

... (If you can judge it too harsh, then you're saying YOU could make a better judgment.)

The problem with "clarifying the boundaries" is that we have to FIND them. This place has been a free for all for so long, so we have to get the right formula. It's a work in progress...

No, I'm not saying I could make a better judgment. I'm saying that in this case, I would have made a different judgment. I'm stating an opinion about ONE decision, not about all the things you guys do. If I complete a survey for a contractor about electrical work he did in my home and say that I didn't like the placement of the light switch, that doesn't mean that I think I could do a better job of wiring my house - I'd electrocute myself! I'm not trying to tell you how to do any aspect of your job. On some level I think you know that because you followed up with "so we have to get the right formula" which seems to imply an acknowledgement that there may have to be some adjustments made along the way until you get the right mix. I would think that feedback from members might help with that task. If it makes you feel better, consider this my feedback - because that's all it is.

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Originally Posted by Becky

...If you call someone, "A retarded so and so

" is that emoticon is going to erase that slur?

If I ever call someone something like that, ask me then; but probably not. But then again, if I seriously thought so little of someone that I would say something like that, there would probably be no need for the emoticon in the first place.

Call me naive, but I think when most people use emoticons, they probably do so to express the laughter, or a wink-wink, nudge-nudge, through written communication, that would otherwise be picked up on in tone of voice or body language during a face to face exchange. But that's just me. Maybe others use them differently.

Becky · #63 10-07-2015, 11:35 AM

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Originally Posted by Kathleen

I think I will put my 2 cents in here. I used to be a moderator here back in the dark ages on the file sharing forum. That particular forum was a mess, constant fighting and accusations (I share more than you do nah nah) etc. I came in after many people couldn't sort it out or didn't have the patience to deal with it. I established rules and banned people when they weren't followed. I was undermined constantly by the board administrator Peter. If someone didn't like what I did, they would whine to Peter and he would support them and undermine what I did. It happened frequently enough that I quit early on. Peter's response was to close the file sharing forum entirely. You cannot moderate without the support of the board owner and at the time, I didn't have that.

The problem here has always been a lack of agreement on behavior and then the ability to enforce it. Peter has always been adamant about not banning people and that still undermines the present moderators. Combine that with there being only one (or perhaps two) moderators who actually have the power to ban people and yes - it's a thankless fcuking job.

Thanks for that, Kathleen. I've been out for a few days. I think I had a virus or something (me, not my computer). I don't know why the hell I'm up at 3:00 AM now.

IhpAb · #64 10-18-2015, 03:14 PM

Normally I'll only read others' posts and do not write in the forum. But seeing this whole "how should Jon and the band go out", I think I want to offer my thought. I was 14 when I fell in love with the band in 2004. Back in the days, I had no means to travel to the US or EU or even Japan for their concerts. I only started working and saving money less than a year ago, and until very recently, I was not sure when the time would come for me to save enough to make that first trip. Then they decided to kick off the mini tour in SEA. Jakarta, Kuala Lumpur, Singapore, you name it, I was there.

Now, if they had ever decided to end everything back in 2011, would I have had that precious chance and my first concerts? Hell no. And I thank all the Almighty that they kept and keep going on.

I'm well aware of Jon's vocal condition. I'm well aware of the fact that Richie may never come back. Many of you guys had such a great time with them in the 1980s, 1990s or even 2000s eras. Trust me I'm dying to live those legendary moments too. But if this is the best I can take, then I'll take it. Because my time with the band is limited. They are in their 50s, Tico's even 61, I'm not sure how long they will continue. But as long as they wish to keep going on with new albums and concerts, I'll still be delighted and will be there whenever I could.
Just my two cents

Kathleen · #65 10-19-2015, 03:40 AM

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Originally Posted by IhpAb

But if this is the best I can take, then I'll take it. Because my time with the band is limited. They are in their 50s, Tico's even 61, I'm not sure how long they will continue. But as long as they wish to keep going on with new albums and concerts, I'll still be delighted and will be there whenever I could.
Just my two cents

I feel the same way and I have been a fan for years. I will take what is left (and I may complain but I will still buy tickets).
I feel the same way about Bruce despite how long I have been a fan. As long as he is touring - I'm there.

Call it Blind Love if you want - but there is still something to offer.

bjmjpl · #66 10-19-2015, 08:32 AM

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Originally Posted by Kathleen

I feel the same way and I have been a fan for years. I will take what is left (and I may complain but I will still buy tickets).
I feel the same way about Bruce despite how long I have been a fan. As long as he is touring - I'm there.

Call it Blind Love if you want - but there is still something to offer.

blind love

a masterpiece....how is this song so under the radar....

Rdkopper · #67 10-19-2015, 01:27 PM

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Originally Posted by bjmjpl

blind love

a masterpiece....how is this song so under the radar....

How is it under the radar? I thought it got fairly positive reviews on here and on YouTube.

The whole BB album is under the radar bty

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Kathleen · #68 10-19-2015, 10:21 PM

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Originally Posted by bjmjpl

blind love

a masterpiece....how is this song so under the radar....

That was a deliberate usage on my part - I love that song. The melody is gorgeous. Not surprised that you see it as such too

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