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Old 06-17-2006, 06:45 PM
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I'm not going to get into all that crap about his singing voice and recent albums, it's been done to death. He has failed as an actor though no matter how many backstagers may try to claim otherwise. Jon Bon Jovi did not go into acting to appear in crappy straight to video releases and low budget movies. We all know that is not his style, he went into it with the intention of being a movie star, he isn't therefore he has failed.
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Old 06-17-2006, 06:51 PM
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I'm not going to get into all that crap about his singing voice and recent albums, it's been done to death. He has failed as an actor though no matter how many backstagers may try to claim otherwise. Jon Bon Jovi did not go into acting to appear in crappy straight to video releases and low budget movies. We all know that is not his style, he went into it with the intention of being a movie star, he isn't therefore he has failed.
You have a point, but, if his intention was to be a big actor then why didn't he move to Hollywood and pursue it full time like his agent supposedly suggested?

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Old 06-17-2006, 07:05 PM
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You have a point, but, if his intention was to be a big actor then why didn't he move to Hollywood and pursue it full time like his agent supposedly suggested?

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That's a good point.

I still don't understand what are we supposed to talk about. We had thousand of threads about Jon's acting but whether he's a good actor or not it's just an opinion. I cannot imagine what would have happened if Jon had a great success as an actor. I just think that "the 5 valid points" in the first post have nothing to do with this matter.
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Old 06-17-2006, 07:20 PM
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How does one "fail" at acting. Jon is offered a role. Jon accepts role. Jon films movie. Jon gets paid. Since this pattern has happened for all of his movies, he hasn't failed. The movies haven't performed well. If you see a movie with Jon Bon Jovi, and midway through it his character is replaced by a different actor then THAT is failing.

And Peter, unless you can back that up. I'm not buying it. In fact there's more evidance on the opposite side of it. Jon HAS said he'd rather do a hip movie than a hit movie. Show me an interview where he's said he wants to be the most popular actor ever.

I'm with Deb here. Like his acting or hate it, he hasn't failed. He still acts, he still love to act, the failing of the movie has little to do with him.
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Old 06-17-2006, 07:30 PM
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How does one "fail" at acting. Jon is offered a role. Jon accepts role. Jon films movie. Jon gets paid. Since this pattern has happened for all of his movies, he hasn't failed. The movies haven't performed well. If you see a movie with Jon Bon Jovi, and midway through it his character is replaced by a different actor then THAT is failing.
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Old 06-17-2006, 07:40 PM
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Mmmhmm. Because it's dreaming that everything is okay in Bon Jovi land that helps me sleep. I've been caught, red handed. I could care less about his acting. Until he acts in a movie I would like to see, meh, more power to him. Don't try and peg me as someone who will support him in all he does, because I'm not. I just choose to handle this more maturely than you.
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If Jon hadn't FAILED as an actor, would there still be a Bon Jovi? What do you think?

Here are the FACTS:

1. Jon's songwriting has become lazy. Obviously his heart isn't in it anymore.

2. He has lost his singing voice anyway.

3. He is more obsessed about his looks than any hetrosexual male should be. (Maybe he has caught gaydom?) Seeing his blond thinning hair on CNN (the world's most trusted news source, trivia fans) yesterday was the highlight of my otherwise uneventful day.

4. His 'acting' delayed the release of the follow up to These Days by a year or two. That nearly killed the band.

5. He obviously still wants to be an actor since he continues to take roles in Z-list films even Christopher Lambert wouldn't take. And he also said so in yesterday's interview on the world's most trusted news source.

What do you reckon folks?
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Old 06-17-2006, 07:50 PM
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Jon just discussed his acting and the band member's side projects in an interview. He said those projects assist their music in that when they come back together they have more to write about. As soon as Jon was offered a script following his first film, he succeed as an actor. Failure results from no more offers. Not being nominated for an academy award does not indicate failure.....


Is having outside interests important to the success of Bon Jovi then?

It’s so important. This is why: you write songs about life but you need to go and live life to write about it. If you just live a band life what is there really to write about after you’ve done it once. So living life individually for guys in bands is so important and brings a lot more to the table.

Just for an analogy, remember when you’d go on holiday at school and you’d come back after your vacation and all your friends had new clothes and new bikes and they did something else and went places. They always had something to talk about.

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How does one "fail" at acting.
By not being good enough to be offered bigger and more interesting parts (whatever the movie or the producers ambitions).
The quality of the parts he's being offered is going down.

It's not only opinion to say an actor is good or bad, and it has nothing to do with how bankable the actor is (ask JC VanDamme). There are rules, codes, technics when it comes to acting that Jon doesn't yet master. And some movies he's made would have been better with someone else in his place. A good actor shines on his partners and makes them better.

Jon is not that bad, but he lacks intensity and ease, you can tell he's watching himself play, trying to control every word and move he makes, when he should just let go of himself. He never managed to make me forget Jon Bon Jovi and see his character only (and that is a failure imo). He's had some good directors and lessons so these are his limits as an actor right now.

Aside from that, I have no problem with him having some sort of ambition in that business and I'm sure he can improve too. If it can spare us a Bounce or a Complicated... Aaaaaaaaaand ACTION.

If he had been successful, I think there'd still be a band.


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