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Originally Posted by Walleris
I'm not attacking anyone, could people who said a convincing "yes" to this question, provide an example of an artist with Bon Jovi logenvity that according to them is not a nostalgia act? That still has hits today, that is gaining new fans with new material, and draws people to concerts with not only old hits, but new stuff as well?
Really, an honest question. Cause once again, if everybody past their 50s is automatically a nostalgia act, then this 'term' makes no sense IMO.
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That's a totally different question... The answer doesn't actually prove whether the term is relevant or not, but it is; plain and simple. Some people just don't want to accept it.
I've said this elsewhere but everyone keeps asking the same questions but dressing them up *slightly* differently - to measure relevance you have to put them up against relevant music, not their peers. The argument isn't 'are they more relevant than Def Leppard'; that's like saying 'Your mum is smokin' hot for her age... ' Great. But that doesn't mean she should go clubbing with your sister in a mini skirt and grind with 18 year-olds...
That leads on to maturing. Some say that's what Bon Jovi have done, that's what the new music is about.
I would argue that music is about stages in a career. Jon is trying to be relevant to the wrong audience and missing the point that he already has a HUGE back catalogue of songs that are relevant to millions and always will be, because they came about when he WAS Bieber, when he WAS Timberlake. So embrace that.
I don't think it's something to be ashamed of, for the band or their fans. To not be a 'nostalgia' or 'legacy' act you have to have had songs that stand the test of time and you have to make sure you don't burn out, or p*ss on that legacy. This is where they are making a mistake right now, in my opinion. The new songs will not stand the test of time because it's Jon trying to emulate something that doesn't seem to come naturally to him. It's a band that aren't desperate or hungry any more. Consequently, their middle of the road, ploddy output is starting to crowd the set... Who Says, WLOL, LH, Water, Born To Follow, Crash, BWC, WAN, ILTT... to name but a few. The party band are starting to slow to a gentle jog. I know, I wasn't at the last show, it was amazing etc etc... great. I might not have been there but I can bet it wasn't foot to the floor, full throttle, Jon dripping in sweat, covering the whole stage kinda sh*t... this isn't that and he's not to old to deliver it... another topic, another time, all been said.
The fact is, to be a touring colossus after 30 years should be enough for Jon, it's a helluva lot more than most artists will ever get. He wants to sell out the desert and please everyone but he seems to mostly be pleasing himself at the moment.
Let's face it, this conversation wouldn't be taking place for the 24th time in two months if the album had been any good.