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Old 11-11-2009, 01:43 AM
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I haven't listened to The Circle much yet so can't properly pass judgement. I'll post a review when I'm ready, but what I can say so far is that The Circle isn't exactly a vintage Jovi album by any means, and I think anyone who thinks it's the best album since These Days needs their ears testing.
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Old 11-11-2009, 03:35 AM
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It will probably grow on you after this is what you said a few weeks ago:

1. WWWB and WFTWM are horrible.
2. Fast Cars and Live Before You Die are boring.
3. Shala Shala and Halle Halle are gay.

Those are it.
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I agree with that. Seems like some people here try to purposely find a fault with the band. They did change their first single, because of the fans and that wasn't good enough, even though all the bitching here is aimed to make the band do exactly that.
I am not trying to find fault with them. I love pretty much everything they have done, but listening to people here say how fantasic the album was, I guess my expectations were a little high and I didnt get what I was expecting.

A little negative critism is not a bad thing - and I believe this is my very first thread (even post) in which I have expressed a dislike for something they have done.

That said, I am glad others agree with me. Those who like the album, thats great, but we all have different tastes and this is just an album that doesnt seem to be growing on me.
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I am not trying to find fault with them. I love pretty much everything they have done, but listening to people here say how fantasic the album was, I guess my expectations were a little high and I didnt get what I was expecting.

A little negative critism is not a bad thing - and I believe this is my very first thread (even post) in which I have expressed a dislike for something they have done.

That said, I am glad others agree with me. Those who like the album, thats great, but we all have different tastes and this is just an album that doesnt seem to be growing on me.
Your review is fair enough. But have you heard some of the things on here? This is shit, that is shit. Hello! One of the biggest rock bands in the world changed their song because of a 14 year-old on youtube and because of the fans. Seriously, how much more open minded can they be?
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Your review is fair enough. But have you heard some of the things on here? This is shit, that is shit. Hello! One of the biggest rock bands in the world changed their song because of a 14 year-old on youtube and because of the fans. Seriously, how much more open minded can they be?
I have heard a lot of crap spilled here, by certain people who attack everything Jovi does.
This is the first time I have ever critisised the band. I have to have a real big problem in order to do that - I love these guys, I listen to them all the time, I love their songs, they are amazing. But the new album was a disappointment, for me, anyway. I can listen to it, and I dont hate it, but its not what I was expecting.

Which song did they change? I've been living under a rock for awhile so am not up with all the goss.
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I have heard a lot of crap spilled here, by certain people who attack everything Jovi does.
This is the first time I have ever critisised the band. I have to have a real big problem in order to do that - I love these guys, I listen to them all the time, I love their songs, they are amazing. But the new album was a disappointment, for me, anyway. I can listen to it, and I dont hate it, but its not what I was expecting.

Which song did they change? I've been living under a rock for awhile so am not up with all the goss.

They changed WWBTF - they put a solo in it after the original didnt have one.

The internet is a place for people to moan.

New Jersey is probably the best album they have done but if this baord was around back then it would have probably been slated. Theres too much analyzing and not enough listening these days.
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Tbh, there is a lot of negativity vented here - more than is perhaps proportionate to what is deserved and I've kind of built up an immunity to it over the years. "People love to complain," has never had a clearer (or more prolonged) demonstration. I have been guilty of it as well, I will openly admit - Bounce for instance.

That said, if people like to repost and paraphrase themselves in multiple threads with their opinions, it doesn't bother me. Why should it? My opinion is that the album is brilliant. It lacks a truly stand-out hit single but the so-called 'album tracks' are so good that I don't really care. I'd rather an album I can listen to and enjoy all the way through than an album with a few really memorable tracks and a load of garbage filling the cracks.

The opinions of people on this board are extreme compared to general Jovi listeners. I tend to gauge a better overall opinion of a track on how it goes over when we play it live - it's the only time we get a good reflection of what a, dare I say it 'open-minded,' group of Jovi fans think to the music. Bearing in mind, most of the time we play 'Dry County' live, there is a fantastic reception and mutterings around the room of, 'Wow, Dry County!' we know that it's not just your casual Jovi fans that come to the gigs but people who actually own the back-catalogue.

When we aired WWBTF these last couple of times, we had people coming up to us at the end saying they had not listened to Jovi properly in years but the new stuff sounds so good, they are going to start listening again... and that's after 'Born to Follow'. Considering most people here hate that track and rank the other songs considerably higher, imagine how they will feel when they actually go away and listen to the whole album.

It has gotten to the stage where I think some people on the board will never be happy no matter what is released. Perhaps I have lowered my expectations in the years following Crush...

...or, perhaps the fact that I can listen to this album all the way through twice a day and still love it and know I will still love it next week/month/year shows that there is a marked difference between this and all other post-2000 releases. I still can't stomach Crush all the way through, I haven't listened to Bounce in years and only the better tracks off of HAND get played. Lost Highway? I don't listen to that either. Personally, I don't think that's a sign that I've lowered my standards and yet here I am still listening to The Circle on repeat.

I feel genuinely sorry for those fans that can't get into it. This, for me, is what Crush should have been after TD. No album is faultless and I don't pretend that this is any different but it's certainly the best material for 14 years to my ears and that can't be seen as anything other than a good thing.
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Every album since Crush has sold it's copies based upon the first hitsingle. As soon as there were more singles released they all tanked, showing that every album just had 1 or 2 good songs. As soon as they started to release their second single the single tanked and it didn't help selling more copies at all.
I don't agree with that at all. Just because a single is successfull doesn't mean it's a good song, just look at the crap that currently tops the single-charts! And a song tanking in the charts doesn't necessarily make it a bad song either. The charts reflect what the masses like, it says nothing about the quality of a song.
I think that BJ often picked the wrong songs to release as a single, some songs just don't work as a single but that doesn't make them bad. I also think that you have to consider promotion. A first single inevitably gets more attention than any further release and if it is a big hit like IML, I would think that there is such a think as saturation of demand. People who would potentially like that kind of music already bought Crush because IML was so big. Thus a second single, or even a third, just doesn't meet any demand any more.
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Slippery is a very dated album that has maybe 2 or 3 really good songs and the rest are actually kind of average. Their decent, good to listen to, nothing mind blowing. Kind of like most of HAND to me. New Jersey of course is a different matter.
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