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Old 05-07-2013, 06:41 PM
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I'm not a fan of Jon's politics either. I try to stay centralist and moderate in my politics, but what bothers me is that I've never heard him speak about an issue he's passionate about, he just supports the Democratic Party. To me, that just comes across as someone that wants in politics because they are power hungry, and that is just worse type of politician IMO.

But then again, he hasn't actually run for office yet, so I'll reserve my judgment until he does and actually starts talking about position on the issues, and I think you should too, after all there are several Democratic members of the tea party. You never know.

Also, tax payers didn't pay for Jon's trip, that was paid for by the Obama reelection campaign which is privately funded.
No the Obama re-election fund paid for the price of a first class ticket they never pay for the actual costs of Air Force One for political events (not a slam on Obama it is with all Presidents). Air Force One costs one heck of a lot more to run that the price of a ticket. The 30 minute jaunt cost tax payers over 1 million dollars.

I don't care about his politics at all - he can want whatever he wants. In business he is the ultimate capitalist that's for sure. I am a Libertarian - I think both parties suck the only difference between them is one wants to spend more of my money than the other.

My beef with him is the tax payer funded trip - it pisses me off. For a person running around saying he is working class it was really a stupid stunt IMHO. But even with that I did not trust Richie would be at the show so I did not go. And after this latest I was right.

And I don't blame Jon for this - Richie bailed yet again. I am tired of him his demons his whatevers - short of an issue with his daughter then he needs to put on his big girl panties and live up to his obligations.

How many venues will be excited to book them again when two tours in a row he bailed?
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Old 05-08-2013, 12:06 AM
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No the Obama re-election fund paid for the price of a first class ticket they never pay for the actual costs of Air Force One for political events (not a slam on Obama it is with all Presidents). Air Force One costs one heck of a lot more to run that the price of a ticket. The 30 minute jaunt cost tax payers over 1 million dollars.

I don't care about his politics at all - he can want whatever he wants. In business he is the ultimate capitalist that's for sure. I am a Libertarian - I think both parties suck the only difference between them is one wants to spend more of my money than the other.

My beef with him is the tax payer funded trip - it pisses me off. For a person running around saying he is working class it was really a stupid stunt IMHO. But even with that I did not trust Richie would be at the show so I did not go. And after this latest I was right.

And I don't blame Jon for this - Richie bailed yet again. I am tired of him his demons his whatevers - short of an issue with his daughter then he needs to put on his big girl panties and live up to his obligations.

How many venues will be excited to book them again when two tours in a row he bailed?
I see what you mean, the campaign only paid for his seat, not the full taxpayer cost the flight. You still shouldn't be pissed about that. Obama was going to the fundraiser, so that flight would have happened anyway. JBJ hitching a ride at the campaign's expense reduced the taxpayers expense for that flight by the cost of that ticket. Now, if you want to be pissed because Obama is using Air Force One for personal matters on our dime, I won't argue.
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Old 05-08-2013, 02:54 PM
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I see what you mean, the campaign only paid for his seat, not the full taxpayer cost the flight. You still shouldn't be pissed about that. Obama was going to the fundraiser, so that flight would have happened anyway. JBJ hitching a ride at the campaign's expense reduced the taxpayers expense for that flight by the cost of that ticket. Now, if you want to be pissed because Obama is using Air Force One for personal matters on our dime, I won't argue.
No. They had to make a special stop in New Jersey to pick him up and take him across the river. That's my beef. The President has to use AFO no way around it - but stopping in NJ, shutting down the airport, diverting planes etc all for Jon to jump on? Yeah that annoys me. A LOT.
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Old 05-08-2013, 03:10 PM
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To me it is the end of the band without a doubt ...
but not of the end of the business.....
It will never be the same but I would not bet on JBJ giving up yet, he will go on even ALONE and he will tell the world that all is fine. As long as people on the financial side will trust him and put money on his name he will go on- BUT the band IS OVER
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Old 05-08-2013, 03:16 PM
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Jon and Obama plane .. did you know that one way was on the president plane (to NYC - that flight cause quite a press reaction) but NOT the other way (back to washington) Jon took the train to washington THE NEXT DAY (kevin spacey had a photo with him with the train number written on the background.. it was very weird because the press announced him in the plane AND actually he was not as he took the train the next morning at around 9am ...funny how he posed on the tarmac that night BUT NEVER GOT ON THAT PLANE ..I guess they thought about it (The president team) and decided they didn't want a scandal about it ... the proof can be found on kevin spacey twitter account with the date and the train number
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