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Old 09-13-2018, 07:21 PM
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As a child of alcoholics and a brother(and other family members) that is an alcoholic. Alcoholism is never about how much you drink it's why you drink and the addiction that results.
The voice of reason Deb - and I agree with you.
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Old 09-13-2018, 09:20 PM
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Absolutely!

Jon has said in 1989: "This isn't a democracy, trust me, I've often thought about killing all the other members of the band."

His first attempt was in the late 80's when he drove them all to alcohol abuse. Tico, Richie and Alec were the victims and in South America he got David that nasty parasite. But all survived. So he went on one by one. In 1994 he had destroyed Alec and went on working on Richie.
That maniac bounced back a couple of times, hence Jon saying in early 2012 "30 years later, I can't get rid of them" with an evil grin. After succeeding in 2013, he was on such a high that he tried to kill off Tico, but the hitman survived two emergency surgeries.
Hence Jon falling into depression and losing his voice. Be realized he's the most untalented serial killer in the history of the United States.

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He used to use this name at hotels in South America: “Jorvis Redwine” lol
I don’t think he’s an alcoholic, the guy is too smart for that crap...
If he was too smart for that crap, he wouldn't have ****ed up his voice by smoking...
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If he was too smart for that crap, he wouldn't have ****ed up his voice by smoking...
Because people is so weak, and stupid and smart at the same time. U_U


anyway! "back on topic" lol


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To go back to the topic: Shanks is here to stay, whether we like it or not. I wonder whether Phil will ever be allowed to actually get creative, though. He was asked on twitter the other day whether he'd like to write songs with Jon and he said that "of course, I'm not an idiot". Just some food for thought ladies and gents.

https://twitter.com/TheRealPhilX/sta...57073345110016

https://twitter.com/TheRealPhilX/sta...58227143614464

I don't like when Phil X laughs like this "hahahahaha."
I find it disrespectful O_O!
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If implications are being thrown around that Richie is the way he is because being under Jon's thumb made him drink and caused this then yah, it falls under X-Files. ...
No one implied that Jon (or being under Jon's thumb) made Richie drink. That would be like blaming Adam Sambora for Richie's addictions because he had the audacity to die. But it's interesting that for all the times it has been suggested that Richie's marital issues and his father's death may have contributed to his substance abuse, no one jumped to defend Mr. Sambora or Heather, or accused people of blaming them for Richie being an alcoholic.

This is the same thing - no more and no less. But God forbid, that anyone suggest that Jon, even unintentionally, may have created a situation which could just as likely have contributed to Richie going off the rails. Because THEN, of course, they could only be suggesting such a far-fetched scenario in order to turn Richie into a victim and cast Jon as the devil who is responsible for all of Richie's problems.

Richie, and no one else, is responsible for Richie's actions. Even so, I think most people would agree that stressful situations can cause an addict to self-medicate, whether it's diving deeper into a bottle or taking more pills.

Or are you saying you think that even IF Richie felt like he was being pushed aside, in a band that he had committed his entire adult life to, that still wouldn't qualify as a "stressful situation", which might lead to increased substance abuse? Keeping in mind that the choice would still be Richie's and no one was forcing his decision.

Frankly, that possibility is no less (and, please note, no more) realistic to me, than concluding that Jon may have turned to Shanks, more and more, because Richie was probably drunk or unavailable, or just plain unreliable. If you recall, that was one of the first defenses offered on Jon's behalf after he said that he and Shanks had been joined at the hip and Richie came in second to that.

And I don't remember anyone saying that that theory belonged on X-Files, despite the fact that it, too, was based only on something that might have happened.

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This thread.....is bollocks. That’s all.
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