I think the consensus amongst the hardcore support is Shanks has indeed done as much as anyone to bring about their seeming demise. He's safe though, having latched onto Jon and got his claws in so deep he'll soon be confirmed as an official member no doubt. At that point I'm out.

I so wish Jon could realise the negative effect his friendship with Shanks has had. He genuinely risks alienating his loyal fans, those who would otherwise had been there far longer than the type he still hunts with chart success.