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Old 04-17-2013, 12:03 PM
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Dont agree - I love that Axl has about 4 or 5 voices. Listen to the song So Fine on UYI2 - who would think its the same bloke as on something like Jungle? Then again his voice changed on Estranged.
Duff sings the majority of that song so it's no wonder you have trouble thinking it's the same bloke.

Axl is/was the most talented singer of the three and Tyler is/was the best performer. Jon is somewhere in the middle.
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Prime:
Axl
JBJ
Tyler

Now:
JBJ
Tyler
Axl

Not alot to choose between them now. Tyler has the best voice, JBJ has the best stage presence (when on his game), Axl's ChiDem was a better record than anything Aerosmith or Bon Jovi have released in the 00's.

Axl in his prime was unstoppable. The ultimate front man, singer, rock star. Jon may have made the girls scream but Axl did that and kicked every blokes arse while on stage. Tyler is an institution but he didn't have the same impact in his prime the other two did IMO.
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Dont agree - I love that Axl has about 4 or 5 voices. Listen to the song So Fine on UYI2 - who would think its the same bloke as on something like Jungle? Then again his voice changed on Estranged.
That's because Duff sings So Fine....and I bet the other 2-3 voices of Axl are either Duff or Izzy! But there you go! Axl used to have an amazing range though....no question about that.
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Duff sings the majority of that song so it's no wonder you have trouble thinking it's the same bloke.

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I know that!! The verses are Axl
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I know that!! The verses are Axl
The verses are Duff, the chorus is Axl.
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They were all great in their prime.

Jon was just constantly good through out the 80s/90s. I haven't seen Jovi live, and probably won't for awhile due to where I live, but from the videos I've seen..I haven't been too impressed with what I heard. Not horrible, but nowhere near his prime

Axl was a bit hit/miss, but when he was on he was probably the best singer around. Today its the same, just he's more miss than hit. Again when he is having a good night, he can still deliver the shit.

I'm not a big Aerosmith fan, I can never seem to sustain interest in them, but there is no denying that Tyler was a great singer in his prime (and even later on). Not really sure about now-a-days.
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The verses are Duff, the chorus is Axl.
Ok yeah - starts with the chorus so it threw me.
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From a singer/frontman perspective:

Steven Tyler is definitely the most consistent one, easily. In general, he's one of the best-aged vocalists in rock. Sure, you could say that Jagger still has his voice, but Stones song are mostly easy to sing, so he didn't have to blow his pipes every night for the last 40 years like Steven. Sure, Aerosmith shows aren't long, but Tyler is giving his all. Live he can still do justice on pretty much the entire band's catalogue, which at his age is saying something.

I like the Axl hit and miss description. He's hit and miss, times 10. In his prime, an absolute beast, as a frontman he's as intense as it gets. In 2010 I felt he was the best Axl he could possibly be vocally (I don't it's possible for him to sing any better than ), but the they had this ~10 month break where his voice for some reason returned to 2001/02 form, except with a little more rasp. Although he still can show some magic (), so I guess for him it depends on whether he wants to use the raspy voice in the last couple of years he uses it rarely, I wish he did it like in 2010 and then I'm pretty happy. Will see how that goes. As a frontman, he'd still have it if he wasn't running backstage every solo to pump oxygen. Anyway, he's the only one of the three I haven't seen live, I'm still waiting for that.

With Jon I have at least to say. Completely lost his higher register. Cut down on his movement on stage. Yet for some reason I still think he's the best frontman of the 3. I don't know if it's the unpredictability in the sets (you don't have a feeling that anything can be played in Aerosmith or GNR shows), or his rare ad-libs, or an unexpeced high note in a ballad. Even at his age, I feel that he's able to give the best shows with less effort in terms of singing and moving, but he just has IT. Sure, it depends on his mood too much, but when Jon's in it, there's not a better show on earth. And I was very satisfied with his vocal shape in 2010, unlike some people here.

As songwriters, they're all very different obviously, but I feel that Steven is below the other 2. For me Music From Another Dimension has 2 types of songs: borring songs and sugar-coated ballads. Honestly, Jaded is the only really strong song IMO that they did after Get A Grip (Miss a Thing doesn't count as the band had nothing to do with the writing of this one). This album (Music...) and Chinese Democracy are not that different when you think abou it. Music... was their first original in 11 years and Democracy was first in 15. The former was probably better received because it had the same people in the band and it wasn't so different from a genre perspective, but from a songwriting standpoing, Democracy shits all over it. With Jovi recent efforts is different, cause Jon still puts out so much music, which at his age usually leads to decline in quality. But I love Lost Highway and all the other 00s albums would still have enough great tracks to make into one big superb album. So Jon wins in my book, but as Crashed pointed out, this is an obvious choice in this board, I just felt like elaborating on this one.
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Axl's ChiDem was a better record than anything Aerosmith or Bon Jovi have released in the 00's.
Just for fun: Here's a list of the album tracks JBJ wrote without band members involvement since 1992 (meaning outside writers are okay):

Always
(It's Hard) Letting You Go
Something To Believe In
Heart's Breaking Even

Say It Isn't So
Just Older
Mystery Train
Save the World
She's a Mystery
I Got the Girl

Right Side Of Wrong

Last Man Standing
Thief Of Hearts

Wildflower
Complicated
Story Of My Life

Everybody's Broken

I'm With You
What About Now
Amen
That's What The Water Made Me
Beautiful World
Room At The End Of The World
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