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Old 03-04-2007, 12:12 AM
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well of course makes a lot of sense! your looking the album to sell then play to the core audience! i know there not there to profess there dying love for religion and even if they are id imagine (jon being catholic) it not going down to well with south u.s.a. makes gud sense to play to that people! bold but probs will pay off
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Old 03-04-2007, 12:25 AM
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well of course makes a lot of sense! your looking the album to sell then play to the core audience! i know there not there to profess there dying love for religion and even if they are id imagine (jon being catholic) it not going down to well with south u.s.a. makes gud sense to play to that people! bold but probs will pay off
Richie and Tico are Catholics as well...

I think it sucks. It's amongst the worst forms of selling out I can imagine...Christian TV is one big manipulative machine and they make use of that...it's just silly...
I don't mind if the boys would talk about their faith or religion on TV (Alice Cooper, Bruce Dickinson did it before)...actually religion is a big source of inspiration...but Christian TV is something I consider to be morally WRONG.

Have you guys heard of conservapedia.org? just check it out. Christian TV is similar in my eyes...
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Old 03-04-2007, 12:32 AM
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Richie and Tico are Catholics as well...

I think it sucks. It's amongst the worst forms of selling out I can imagine...Christian TV is one big manipulative machine and they make use of that...it's just silly...
I don't mind if the boys would talk about their faith or religion on TV (Alice Cooper, Bruce Dickinson did it before)...actually religion is a big source of inspiration...but Christian TV is something I consider to be morally WRONG.

Have you guys heard of conservapedia.org? just check it out. Christian TV is similar in my eyes...

well we dont get christian tv here inireland! maybe if u have sky r sumthing! which i dont lol. granted im in norway at the minute!

ant morally wrong just morally boring!
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Old 03-04-2007, 12:36 AM
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is that show specific of a christian chanel ? or is it an existing show that have been bought by a christian chanel ?
i am so suprised by the guys choice lately ... I am from a majorly catholic counry but my heart is heavily laic this kind of show is maybe interesting but the supporting chanel is a big 'no thanks' for me

I am though waiting impatiently for Kathleen report

but what are they gonna do next ?
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Is it *really* all that shocking that they would appear on a Christian TV program? I mean, really? Their songwriting doesn't exactly paint them as atheists, agnostics, or anti-Christian. I can only guess that this is a Christian TV program because every other program on the station is, or at least it looks like it is. I guess we'll find out at midnight. I've never heard of the program or even noticed the network prior to hearing about this.

I ran across an article a few months ago when I did a random news search that was talking about some kind of family values/spiritual programming service like a NetFlix where you subcribe and they send you family oriented/spiritually oriented movies, programs, and documentaries and the article listed Jon as one of their celebrity subscribers. So if it's the kind of stuff he watches/subscribes to, I can't really be shocked that he'd make an appearance. Richie has "God" and "Faith" tattooed on his arm. It's not a big shocker that he'd appear on a Christian program either.
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well of course makes a lot of sense! your looking the album to sell then play to the core audience! i know there not there to profess there dying love for religion and even if they are id imagine (jon being catholic) it not going down to well with south u.s.a. makes gud sense to play to that people! bold but probs will pay off
I didn't think Jon was catholic. I know he said he was raise to be a catholic but remember what he said about the cult, sorry I mean church, in '95. Something about how he hated any organisation that would damn a baby for all eternity because it died without being baptised but some rapist who repents on his death bed gets to spend eternity in heaven. Now granted he may have changed his opinions in recent years but that's the one and only time I've ever come across Jon mentioning anything about religion outside of his lyrics, and nothing in them suggest he's a catholic. He's always seemed to me to be a classic example of someone who believes in the belief in God, rather then being religious.

But anyway, I couldn't agree more with Devilson's post, whatever their religious tendencies, it's the absolute worst form of selling out imaginable. Kind of ironic though. They sold their (musical) souls on Christian TV. As I said before, pathetic, like Jovimini said, what's next? A sad day in Bon Jovi land.
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I've heard Jon talk about faith several times in audio/video interviews. He has expressed that he does believe in God, that he prays, that he thinks that God is "right here" (as in in the same room with him), that you don't have to go to a church or pay anyone any money to talk to God, and he's thanked God for his continuing success. Basically, he's expressed in interviews the same kind of belief he put in the lyrics to the first verse of Bang a Drum. I have an interview from 1995 where he was talking about their enduring success and said, "God willing, or I should say God thank you" blah blah blah. The changing the cliche phrase of "God willing" to "God thank you" stuck with me.

I know the interview you mentioned too where he talked about questioning faith. You have to have faith to question it like Something to Believe In; and you can't be mad at God if you don't believe in Him a la Hey God.

Let's at least SEE the show before we judge it, okay. I doubt they'll be starting it off with a round of prayer and a chorus of Amazing Grace.
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Let's at least SEE the show before we judge it, okay. I doubt they'll be starting it off with a round of prayer and a chorus of Amazing Grace.
exactly wat i was going to say! lets see what happenes before we condem him!

as for selling out! dnt really think having faith would really fit that term! anyway deosnt seem to have done u2 any harm! as well as countless other musicians.
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exactly wat i was going to say! lets see what happenes before we condem him!

as for selling out! dnt really think having faith would really fit that term! anyway deosnt seem to have done u2 any harm! as well as countless other musicians.
Nobody's talking about having faith means you're a sellout, going on some show like this to sell your new album is selling out, and I would eat my own face if U2 ever did something like his. I'm so hoping right now they haven't .

Becky, the quote I was talking about wasn't about him questioning his faith, rather that he's just not a catholic.
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I didn't think Jon was catholic. I know he said he was raise to be a catholic but remember what he said about the cult, sorry I mean church, in '95.
This statement is so... uninformed?, regardless of being for or against religion.

To address what Jon said back in 95, the church does not damn a baby for all eternity if it's not baptised. I doubt Jon said that either, because anyone who thinks that is an idiot.

At any rate, I don't see what the big deal is. Is it a little hokey of them to appear on a Christain TV show? Yeah. It's not exactly like they're going on Mother Angelica for chrissakes. It's a small gtime slot and the only people that are making anything of it are us. Get over it.
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